The Tahir ul Qadri Experiment
PKKH Editorial
It is not wrong to say that Pakistan has been the most eventful theater of all sorts of political dynamics for several years; home to 4 Long-Marches and more in the making; where huge political rallies, both by the government and against it, are almost weekly events; where the world saw the largest and the most numerous anti-blasphemy protests. Where members of the parliament are often seen changing loyalties and where re-grouping is the vogue of the day. It seems, to the common observer, as if all those who hold the offices of the highest trust of their people, are the most un-trustworthy, befuddled in the bedlam of vested interests. For the common man there is no trust, no belief, skepticism fills the air and the air of collective conscience is becoming so heavy that the nation has come on the brink of nauseating.
Perhaps the reasons for such intense induced-chaos in Pakistan’s politics are as various as the many stake-holders in her politics, spread wide and deep around the world. Many times the country has seen its leaders imported from abroad and all the time some of the most patent of its politicians are stationed abroad. Like they say ‘it takes two to tango’, the lowly weakness of our leaders, who consider politics to be a means of making magnanimous rackets and nothing else, who lack broader vision and despise it, invite with full heart interference and mentorships of foreign entities.
In such scenario, the coming of Tahir ul Qadri, from a foreign state, is being seen by most as another stunt in the agenda-driven politics of the country. Draped in the cloak of sainthood, Tahir ul Qadri poses for something like a quick one-month revolution recipe. Gathering all the vice that is already corrupting the nation to the core, under his generous forgiveness, he aims to set battle against the vice with the celebration of the vice itself. This represents the exact manifestation of his liberal stance in religion, of ‘embracing all’, now to be set anew in the politics of Pakistan. Religious leaders have entered the politics of the country before and have been successful in gaining the mistrust of the public before, they have also enjoyed fulfilling their vested interest under the guise of religion before; but never before have they dared to de-conserve religion before, to the extent Tahir ul Qadri is capable of.
With the Tahir ul Qadri experiment, will come this new experience for the nation; an experience of liberating religion from its norms, an experience of a new wave of ‘Ijtehad’, which will be able to legalized much that was previously considered across-limit, both in politics and religion. If only the people of this nation can be kept paralyzed for long enough, such experimentations have the potential to puppet the entire thought-process of the nation, before it wakes up from the hypnotic flimflam of its deliverers.
PKKH warns the fellow-nationals that in this new era of high tech politics, the tool of the politician is not the ‘trust’ of the people; it is their ‘ability to sway you’. Therefore as we stand stupefied in the event horizon of never-ending breaking-news, do not consider yourself safe just by acting ‘frozen’ and by telling yourself that ‘you don’t trust them’, that is not enough; as it is not your ‘trust’ the politicians of this era are attempting for, they are depending only upon your ‘indifference’ and ‘immobility’.
Therefore it is not upon the so-called leaders of this country but upon the people of this nation, to tear the bright slogans of ‘change’ that is promised at the end of each sway and which always results in ‘no change’ but only in the start of another sway. What we need is trustworthiness, before the vote, not after it. What we demand is transparent, wholesome truth. And as long as we are unable to put our demands on the board, it is we, ‘the people’, who are the most corrupt and selfish.
PKKH demands that we and the people of Pakistan are not a stage for experimentation; we are not the guinea pig meant for all types of surgeries! The nation is deliberately being confused with ‘change before elections’, when elections were meant for change; the nation is being played upon with this big drama of resetting the old corrupted-to-the-core ones into a new slogan of ‘change’. It is time that we, ‘the people’, understand our right and duty to the future of this country and our coming generations, it is upon us to broaden our vision and lend it to the ones we intend to choose by our votes, it is time for ‘change’ and revolution, revolution in the way we think!
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It is thought provoking column.We unfortunately are always made as samples for new tests n trails. But for sure its not because of others its we our self. Look around those protesting for CNG, electricity and other ,few days back are relying on a man who does not have anything to loose here. Allah aisay fasiq fajir say bachaay. Aameeen
I think you are as westernized and confused in your thinking as this article is convoluted. Ask yourself, who are the corrupt in the Pakistan nation and who are the ones trying many times for change? The answers will be obvious. There is no confusion.
Pakistan Awwal, Pakistan Aakhir, Saya-a Khuda-a Zuljilaal, Aamiin.
KHADIJA, T-Qadri is nothing short of an agent of the UK (MI6) & perhaps The USA (CIA). His sort should be kept out of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, no matter what the prevailing situation might be in this blessed land.
His lectures are foolish – there is not an iota of spirituality in them. He lies & then denies such utterances. He has rarely lives in Pakistan & he is certainly not a citizen of Pakistan – he has dual nationality. You are obviously confused as his credentials, charachter & what he stands for are highly questionable & this demands thought & action on our part to distinguish between those Ulema who stand & act upon the Haq, in comaprison to those who are neither here or there.
May ALLAH SwT protect & strengthen this land, our beloved Pakistan – a part of Jannah on earth, albeit, a small one, from all fitnah. May ALLAH SwT protect the entire ummah of Nabi-ALLAH SW from all evils, aamiin.
Pakistan Zindabaad, Paendabaad.
ALLAHU-AKBAR!
PKKH who are you trying to fool?
Publishing such columns confirms to me the extreme tendencies of your editors.
Had this been an article about Ibn Taymiyya, it would be full of praise. Any statement against the godfather of Wahhabism would be construed as blasphemy.
Pakistan Awwal, Pakistan Aakhir, Saya-a Khuda-a Zuljilaal, Aamiin.
ALI HUSSAIN, do we have any moral fibre in us? How can you we compare the likes of T-ul-Qadri to great scholars of the past? It is quite clear that you have not fully seen or heard his lectures. T-ul-Qadri is someone promoting Western interests & mixes with all sorts for his own gains. If you knew him well, you’d change your mind.
Pakistan Zindabaad, Paendabaad.
ALLAHU-AKBAR!
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Pakistan Awwal, Pakistan Aakhir, Saya-a Khuda-a Zuljilaal, Aamiin.
T-Qadri is nothing short of an agent of the UK (MI6) & perhaps The USA (CIA). His sort should be kept out of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, no matter what the prevailing situation might be in this blessed land. His lectures are foolish (there is not an iota of spirituality in them) & he lies & then denies such utterances. He has rarely lived in Pakistan & certainly he is not a national (citizen), either.
May ALLAH SwT protect & strengthen this land, our beloved Pakistan – a part of Jannah on earth, albeit, a small one, from all fitnah. May ALLAH SwT protect the entire ummah of Nabi-ALLAH SW from all evils, aamiin.
Pakistan Zindabaad, Paendabaad.
ALLAHU-AKBAR!
So where is the proof..?? Have you forgotten the Quran what does it says not to spread rumors without verifying the facts. Who is the the alternative in this country, you may not like him but his message is appealing to this Pakistani nation.Our dear general Kayani has brought these NRO’s leaders he was part of it, what were they doing when these politician were destroying my country.I may not like Qadri but I 1000% agree with the message…Who are the agents of CIA and M16?? I thought the Zardari (& party), Rahman Malik, and Nawaz (and his party) and Kiyani(and few generls) who let the abbottabad raid happen…what a shame that day I knew every one in the high ups in our government were sold out politican, generals, and bearuecrats. I would say, Army better stay away from the peaceful march, and see if Qadri could bring the change and if he is honest.
the proof? go to cifiaonline. this site has a page dedicated to mr qadri.
@ Sher Jadoon
Military leadership was COMPLICIT with the Americans in the Abbottabad fiasco. Political leadership was not to blame. They are just sitting ducks who will say what they are told to say by Kayani & Co.
TuQ is a Candian national – supported by elements within the US & GB intelligence apparartus PLUS ‘darlings’ in our military & ISI. He has rosen from the ashes and spent millions on his jalsa’s. After all, how can that be possible so soon ?
TuQ is selling the same s*** Imran Khan was when IK was the blue eyed boy of the Establishment – they have ditched him and now TuQ is their new pawn. IK is bot a bad guy but the military now find that he won’t toe the line because he is not a ‘yes man’.
TuQ – I wouldn’t go as far as saying he is a foreign agent but the US & GB governments are quite happy with his stance
because at then end of the day, Pakistan suits everyone just fine if there is disturbance and chaos in the country – why ? It makes Pakistan weak and vulnerable. A stable, democratic and prosperous Pakistan is not in the interests of many people – INCLUDING the Establishment.
So what is REALLY happening ?
The Army wants to takeover – simple. TuQ is a catalyst to create a state of anarchy. A few bombs will go off in our cities and the Army will try and invoke the DoN – Poor IC and the Supreme Court won’t be able to stand in it’s way…
OR…. (if this isn’t true)
Elections will be delayed and all this drama is being played out in order to achieve this because the Army need time to install a government that listens to their whims and fancies – that is far better than them coming inot power directly through a coup à la 1999.
God Protect Pakistan but Allah is angry with our nation, it is pretty damn obvious. The military elite are not loyal to Pakistan and neither are elements in our intelligence apparatus – they would sell Pakistan to the highest bidder because they are whores (pardon my expression). The politicians are greedy too but ‘democracy’ or people’s rule must be allowed to flourish if Pakistan is to exist – it is the ONLY viable option. Through a process of ‘political catharsis’, the dirt will be cleared and good governance will eventually prevail but it will take time – our military does and will not give this a chance to breathe. They are the most corrupt people in the land and you will be surprised. I’m not talking of the patriotic soldiers, junior officers etc. but the ‘elite’, those who make decisions and sit in the corridors of power.
TuQ is not saying anything new, he is just a can of beans with a different label. He has already been bought
Since he came to Pakistan from Canada and from the same neighborhood of my residence, I like convey this to people of Pakistan that in Ontario Province of Canada there is lot of mosques and a very large Muslim population enjoying full freedom of our religion, in fact I never heard or listen to him at first place, secondly he never extend any kind of help to Muslims in the world or particularity in our province Ontario, where as there is lot of organizations are working hard to help those in need, example Battered women, elderly, or poor,
He claim to be “Sheikh ul Islam” how many time he condemn Israel or other oppressors corrupt leaders of Muslim world (UMMA) in International forums, his standing in international forums are never heard or felt, If Mr. Qadri is really have true concern about Pakistan then stay in Pakistan and do some welfare work, ( we need lot of that)
Recently, Egypt Model or Tahrir Square of Cairo came in news, please our leader and people should understand that, Tahrir square is happen to be the place where Egyptian revolution showed up, but in real , it took more than 60 years of hard work, martyrdom and sacrifices to come at this stage, as is we have several clowns for upcoming election we don’t want another one with such title as him, (istighfarullah)
Agreed!
Freinds,
At least do not call him as “Shaikhul Islam” With this presentation, someone can be the real & right follower of Muhammad (PBUH)& Qura’an. I think he intend to be the most sophisticated politician but he is very late, now its the time of Imran Khan & in future might be Bilawal..
Very obvious you are not familiar with Tahirul Qadri’s history / biography. Therefore you can say anything. He has done as much as he can throughout his entire life, and his father before him also helped many people. You cannot expect ONE person to save ALL the world. But I can tell you this man has done more for more people than many of the organizations you mention who have operated for less years than Dr. Qadri has been alive. I too live in Ontario. I am very tired of people throwing stones at those who are honest and attempt to do good. It’s easy to sit at your computer and criticize but what are YOU doing??
Firstly, I learned about Mr. Qadri in 1980’s or even earlier, when he use to come out from his “Hujra” with bodyguards and gunmen, then he tried to cash his position with two dictators period, where as his “Quran Translation or Tafseer work is concerned, it’s may be good for his close followers but not up to the mark for Majority of the Muslim Umma,
Just mention few things (Work) he or his organization has done, in comparison to any welfare organization in Pakistan, also in Ontario
Let’s talk about his present interviews, he says something and then immediately start changing his words around, my sincere advise to him, He should not tried to cash his quick insertion in political arena by doing couple of gatherings,
I am hoping and praying this election will bring righteous people for leadership not opportunist (Amen)
Pakistan Awwal, Pakistan Aakhir, Saya-a Khuda-a Zuljilaal, Aamiin.
KHADIJA, why are you so upset? If you realy knew T-ul-Qadri & what he actually stands for then I’m sure you’d have a completely different viewpoint regarding him. You should really familiarise yourself with him b4 becoming his defender & emotionally attached to him.
May ALLAH SwT save us all from all fitnah.
Pakistan Zindabaad, Paendabaad.
ALLAHU-AKBAR!
I am surprise about this article i thought pakistani like him after seeing his jalsa.but there are few unhappy soul any way he is better then zardari and nawaz who are selling pakistan and bringing it close to bank corruptcy .
what worst can happen i think he is here with military help to form third front to fight election ,
if in this election pakistan didnot get rid of zardari and nawaz then pakistan will be cease to exist.
strange enough,,it seems that the “land of Pakistan” not only throws the evil out of it, but exposes it either …special phenomenon of the special “Qaum”
Dear All,
I have only those people protesting against Mr. Qadri who are from other school of thought only. As massive propaganda is done against him to defame him by them. Further more none of the protesters wants to see the brighter side of the picture as well as they don’t want to consider the situation of having the same government selection in so called elections.
I have been a big Fan of PKKH rather I am an advocate I have been referring this to all my circle telling this is my site which gives the patriotic news.
I request PKKH to write an article that can tell the brighter side of the PICTURE in this coming event of 14th Jan, 2013.
May Allah be with us today and always. Pakistan Zindabad.
Can you explain which “other school of thought” ????? Is this sub-sects of Sunnis, Shias, or Salafis? We are all adults here and can speak without shame and without fighting.
Quran and Musliman
Please Just Read Quran and Follow, and Follow up on Hazarat Mohammad Rasool Allah Saalu Allaayi Wasaalam PBUH’s Hadees to be rightly guided and to stay on right path of our creator Allah Subhana according to th e teachings of his Nabi PBUH.
Please detest, reject, disown, and boycott all that takes you away from these two; The Holy Book of Quran and the Hadees of our Last Prophet’s Deed, Actions, Doings and the Sayings.
As Musliman, Keep it Simple and Straight;
The Quran and the Hadees of our Prophet are as easy and simple as ABCD, making difficult, complicated and near impossible for ordinary masses are the works of the non believers, mushriks, munafaqeens, derailed and degraded teams, groups, parties, nations and individuals.
Tahir Qadri is a deadly cancer of so called Musliman masses of Pakistan that does not read Quran nor understands what our Prophet PBUH did throughout in his life.
Tahir Qadri does his jalasas of men and women in masses and tells totally false dreams about the Prophet PBUH and we still say he is a Islamic mullah and a scholar, from which angle does he serves or presents Islam, except the spread of his Minhaj Ul Qadri?
Please Musliman qoum, help each other to bust up Tahir Qadri’s dream and the dreams that he has in line for us Musliman and Pakistan.
Tahir Qadri is nothing but a Satan, the sooner we acknowledge this fact the sooner we can save our faith and imman from being non believers and mushriks.
To All Musliman Ummah;
And STOP calling youselves as Muslims. This name >>>Muslim<<>>Musliman<<<, period.
Quran and Musliman
A word “Muslim”, when pronounced it sounds as; “Muzzlem”?
Musliman Ummah please refrain and stop others from addressing you as “Muslim”/“Muzzlem” as you are not “Muslim”/“Muzzlem” you are Musliman.
They (enemies of Allah, Nabi SW, Quran and Islam) think they can “Muzzle” Musliman the Ummah of Islam, tell them; No One Can “Muzzle” Musliman.
The open enemies of Musliman have created this name “Muslim”/“Muzzlem” for Ummah of last Nabi Hazarat Mohammad Rasool Allah Salu Allayi Wasalam, so reject this and address yourselves with the correct name and make others to address you as Musliman and not as “Muslim”/“Muzzlem”.
Quran and Musliman
We as Musliman would need to recognise our duties. Hardly any of us live by Quran, instead of Quran teachings hundreds and thousands and millions of hadees, tafaseers, fiqas, jamats, groups, faqeers, babays, maskeenisms and jialaisms has taken up place in and around our lives.
We hear scholars, imams, mullahs, molvies, teachers and leaders propagating their agendas, maslaks and lines. Not one of these losts and fallen over one’s ever come up with Quran in their hands and read.
If Allah needed to give us complications he would not have given us the only one book Quran, instead he would have given us never ending lines of books after books, prophets after prophets that would go on and on, just like now what we see all around us that no one is for Allah but for themselves.
At the end of the day we all are at fault, we help non Quranic ideas, and people that does not serve Allah or his orders but themselves.
As Musliman we should not go from book after book written by people just like us, and put Quran aside and take these people’s books to brain wash ourselves. Everyone of them says to us; to understand Quran you need to read this book or follow this person or follow this or that line. None of these are true, Quran is there for all of us to take guides and act upon.
A slightly different perspective — looks like some people are very worried that Tahir ul Qadri will act as a bridge between the two major “sects” prevalent in Pakistan. He is the only person who has some confidence of the Shias because he praises the Ahle Bait in no uncertain terms. And he is the only person who has confidence of Sunnis as well because he does not have a “Shia” label.
So ……. it seems that those against “unity” have a real problem here. Maybe some people see the return of normalcy in Sunni-Shia relations through Tahir ul Qadri as a roll-back of the Zia-era efforts to divide bholay bhalay Pakistanis? It is well known that Mr. Qadri is a “sufi” and thus a moderate.
I am not a supporter of Tahir ul Qadri and not part of his Minhaj welfare but because he is getting such strong opposition, I am driven towards knowing more about him.
This guy is a crook. Living on funding from the enemies of Islam (U.K., Norway, Denmark, Canada etc). Issuing fatwas on the dictates of his masters. Started of by taking favors from the Sharif family and then turned against them once he didn’t need them anymore. He once boasted (while he was still living in Pakistan) in an interview with Jang that all his clothes come from U.K. He likes to be praised and pampered. A very conceited fellow who loves to self-aggrandize. Someone needs to put this person on a leash
Sir, this so called ‘experiment’ that you have expressed concern over, does not reflect the views of the general public. I am not a follower of Tahir-ul-Qadri nor am I part of Minhaj-ul-Quran.
It is evident that you are very against Tahir-ul- Qadri’s experiment for ‘change’, but you seem to have ignored the experiment the nation has lived through for the past five years:
• Load shedding
• Corruption
• Drone attacks………..the list goes on
This so called experiment for change is only a cause for concern for those who are wrapped in corruption, as it is them who will lose out the most.
I can ensure you sir, ‘we’ the public are not puppets who will fall prey to ‘religious people’, Tahir-ul-Qadri is a well known scholar around the world BUT he has firmly, only and only spoken about having a representative caretaker government and fair elections in accordance to our constitution. This change will ensure democracy rules our nation and not corruption!
I urge you not to ‘brainwash’ the public through your articles and to understand the nation of Pakistan has had enough of these corrupt, greedy and selfish politicians and we will not stand for it anymore.
Therefore we welcome and support Tahir-ul-Qadri reforms and his march to Islamabad.
Qadri is of CongressI Mullahs; he is dangerous and venomous as Hindo Zionists as he is part of them and is for them.
A planted media in Pakistan is giving him full coverage, just like that, and this media in Pakistan is owned, controlled and run by R.A.W Hindo Zionists Extremists, Terrorists, Bigots’, Kafirs and Mushriks as part of their 4th and 5th generations warfare with their cold start doctrines against Pakistan to break it into bits and pieces, NUZUBILLAH.
Why don’t some influential take case against “SAFMA-Amen ki Wahasia” to courts of Pakistan to help expose and throw it out of Pakistan for the sake of Pakistan and the Pakistanis? Why we are being put in the hands of Bharati Congressi Mullahs Minhaj/Qadri and Bharati Congressi Mouqti Bhani MQM/Altaf?
Tahir Qadri is enemy of Pakistan and there is not one doubt left in recognising this traitor a gadar e millat o pak sar zameen Madina e Sani Pakistan.
He had come over all the way from Canada and had managed to gathered up hundreds and thousands of people in his favour a crowed to create anarchy, confusion and disparity in Pakistan, and he was quite successful in doing so this very misleading and misdeed on Pakistanis too.
As a nation of Pakistan we need to study these kinds of traitors and munafaqeens and bring them in light for all to see, they can only do bad to the state and to Islam, so never ever support these Satan ul arad that creates fitnahs and deceptions among masses of Musliman qoum for their invested interests.
It is time for all patriots of Islam and Pakistan from across Pakistan to come out in unity to do jaloos and jalsas against this Satan Tahir Qadri and against his NGO Minhaj Ul Qadri and keep up with the momentum of jalasas and jaloos against him till he is dealt with full on laws.
Tahir Qadri must not be left to get away with his highest treason and the traitorous behaviours against Islam and Pakistan.
Difa e Pakistan council and many others alike must now come forward and defend Islam and Pakistan from this Tahir Qadri’s terrorism and anti Islam and anti Pakistan stands.
I think everyone is nervous. I truly believe he is the last hope of change for Pakistan. All sincere, patriots, and concerned should support him. He is widely respected by most of the religious segments.As Dr.Qadri says its now or never. IF election happens as in this situation next government of PML and PPP will be allied and they change the constitution and get rid of all the Islamic clauses in it, because it serves them. These politician have done nothing for the people of Pakistan. When you compare the politicians and Dr. Qadri who you are going to trust and support? who has more respect and who is more honest…
Please keep religion out of politics. If you find it difficult to do, then take a long hard look at an era when religion was used to promote an agenda. Folks, this is and has been happening all around us for centuries. We need to aware of it.
I sometimes think, we are too critical of Pakistan. Although we have not had a revolutiont like Egypt, We have been successful in liberating our Supreme Court from corrupt judges, so lets take this moment and pat ourselves on the back for liberating our Judicial System from corruption. Oh yes, I almost forgot, our electoral system is also clean. So what is all this noise about bringing on a revolution like the one that happend in Egypt.
I understand we are facinated with the Egyptian revolution. However lets not forget that their judicial system is not one that is unbiased, they have dishonest judges making biased decisions.
When it comes to Pakistan and the proposed long march, the question I feel that folks have not asked is, why are we having a march/revolution three months prior to an election that most critics say will be free and fair in comparison to the others.
Now I am not opposed to the idea of any long march, however I feel the timing is wrong. The perfect time for a long march is after the election, if the election has been a scam and the people are left with a leader that has been brought to the platform by dishonest means.
keeping religion out of politics is the road to shirk. a secular state is the definition of shirk…the secular state, not Allah (SWT), has sovereignty and its the state’s laws that are have to be obeyed. the secular state is able to declare what is haraam and what is halaal and Allah’s (SWT) commandments hold no weight. think about that before calling for religion to be kept out of politics.
btw i dont know if u have ever studied history or not but keeping religion and politics together has worked just fine during islamic history. just b/c in the west it didnt work, doesnt mean the same applies to us. over there they had christianity whereas we had islam and that is why unlike us they failed…sure there are ppl who claim to do things in the name of religion while committing actions outside the religion, but then again the same thing applies to secular govs and democracy.
Mixing religion and politics has been a disaster throughout history especially in Muslim countries…you are so brainwashed by religion you cannot see the truth when it is staring right at you…
huh? what history book have u been reading? have u ever even taken history? throughout muslim history minorities have been treated with tolerance and respect. ALL historians agree this much. unlike in the west we didnt blame the jews whenever we were tested by ALlah (SWT). one example of this is plague…its only when nationalism became popular throughout the world when ppl started calling for independence from the ottomans (who tbh were also not very islamic). if ure talking economically then once again u are wrong. up until about the mid to late 18th century, we were still economically well. unfortunately for us we had lost focus on the sciences, maths, etc and so we were not able to further advance as the west did. thisled to ur goods being cheaper than ours and of course the cheaper ones always win. militarily? once again, until the 18th century we were still militarily powerful as well and able to hold our own against rising powers. however as i said above, due to our lack of advancement the west was now more “modern” than us and so their militaries were likewise more powerful. if u think that the reason we didnt advance is b/c of islam than u are mistaken. there is a reason why until the renaissance we were the more advanced civilization. the early muslims didnt throw knowledge behind their backs. instead as the romans, greeks and even the west (during renaissance) did, they gained knowledge from what they found was already there and advanced it further.
if u are referring to modern “muslim nations” then once again u are mistaken. todays muslim states that are not secular could barely be called muslim at all. for example the saudis espouse wahabbism which does not resemble the original islam that the early muslims practiced. most muslims in the world dont practice islam as it is supposed to be. extremist islam is supported by the west. in fact the only reason why extremism has spread so much is thanks to the west. wahhabis and salafis only came to power b/c of western (british and american) support. its the west’s and their proxy saudis funding of terrorists that has spread this extremism.
@ 321
Exactly. Religion is a part & parcel of politics.
And there is no better example than the Islamic State of Medina with Rasool Ullah (SAWAWS) as it’s spiritual and political head.
shafaq shaheen you sound so bhindian hiding behind name to fool Pakistanis. You see only a retard HindO can ever say what you crape out, religion for Pakistan is a backbone, and our religion Islam is not like HindOim, your HindO religion is manmade where as Islam is a Deen of Allah the owner of all of us. Keep your retard ideas, bhindia might need it.
KHILAFAT E RASHIDA IS WHAT PAKISTAN NEEDS AND INSHA ALLAH WE SHALL BRING ON THE BLESSED ORDER OF ALLAH; ALSO ISLAM SHALL RULE ALL SE CONTINENT, HINDOISM KUFAR GOT TO GO TO THE PITS OF THE HELLFIRES, INSHA ALLAH.
The death of Judaism was caused by the Zionism and the death of Christianism was caused by the democracy.
Officially both religions the Judaism and the Christianism are now things of the past that can never ever comeback or be claimed or reclaimed. May Allah have mercy on Yahood o Nasara for they have indeed done a bad deed onto themselves?
Islam ordained non but by Allah alone for all of the mankind, Islam is not owned by any one; Islam belongs to each and every mankind hereafter, so accept Islam as your salvation and a way out, or else be prepared to be answerable to your creator the one and only Allah and also be prepared to be punished accordingly as dictated in the Holy Books of Torah and Angel and Quran’delivered through the blessed prophets of Allah.
Both Zionism and Democracy were invented as replacements of the Judaism and the Christianism by the wrongdoers, who caused untold damages that were ordained by Allah, but that was not enough so the wrongdoers further went on and invented divisions and sects within the followers of Islam to curtail, defame, degrade, and damage Islam faith the one and only true religion, just like they did it before with both the faiths the Judaism and the Christianism, but Islam is tough, strong, unsalted, unbroken, unmolested, and as shinny and glorious as ever just like our creator Allah had said so, Islam till the doomsday qyamah, WaAllahHiAlam.
READ Quran;
Surat ‘Āli `Imrān (Family of Imran) – سورة آل عمران
53﴿ And they plotted, and Allah plotted, and Allah is the Best of plotters.
READ Quran;
Surat ‘Āli `Imrān (Family of Imran) – سورة آل عمران
﴾103﴿ And let there be of you a community calling others to good and commanding that which is reputable and prohibiting that which is disreputable. And these they are the blissful.
104﴿ And be not like unto those who separated and differed among themselves after there had come unto them evidences. These! for them shall be a torment mighty.
﴾105﴿ On a day whereon faces become whitened and faces become blackened. Then as for those whose faces shall have become blackened: disbelieved ye after your profession of belief! taste the torment for that ye have been disbelieving.
106﴿ And as for those whose faces shall have become whitened– they shall be in Allah’s mercy; therein they shall be abiders.
Now both Zionism and Democracy have failed, disowned, degradered, butchered, defamed and disregarded thus both committed suicides by their own daggers and gone for the good of the mankind and remains one a true message and a system of Allah the Islam, MAY ALLAH HAVE MERCY ON ISLAM AND ON THE FOLLOWER OF THIS BLESSED DEEN ISLAM.
ALLAHU AKBAR
whos the nut that says Zionism and democracy are dead? Zionism and democracy are two different things. This forum is full of nut jobs.
Shafaq,,,apparently you are correct…321, nk, and others are so fanatical with a limited education that they see a conspiracy in anything that is western…this is the 7th century extremist mindset that is holding back Pakistan from joining the free world in the 21st century…
huh? limited? i have time and time again demonstrated that i have far more knowledge than u. if ure calling this limited, than u must have had no education at all, right? The problem with ppl like u is that they refuse to acknowledge the wests role in funding terrorism. in using proxy governments, etc etc. the only comfort i can get is that i know that there are those in the west who in fact are aware of these things.
No foreign power can do anything to anyone anywhere. The only time that a foreign government or group is able to harm another is with the aid of a insider/traitor.
The drone strikes are an example of this. If India had conducted drone strikes on Pakistan would the establishment sit on it’s hind legs and watch? No! they would probably shoot down the drones.
Why can’t they shoot down American drones? Iran does it all the time. This is simply because of the big money that foreign governments have given to sell outs in the Pak Armed Forces. Remember the Pak general that had a connection with Bin Laden, prior to 9/11.
i agree but that was not my point. i was responding to the fact that eddied was saying that there is no western conspiracy. whether or not there are traitors (and there obviously are), the fact still stands that contrary to eddieds insistence, there is in fact a conspiracy being hatched by western powers and their allies against pakistan.
Yes, that is something that I agree with, but this is not just limited to Pakistan. Take a look at what is happening in Syria, Libya and Europe. Pakistan is also being maliciously destabalized along with other nations in the region. Iran is also on their list.
If you take a look at history, you will realize that these kinds of operations are successfully carried out thru traitors.
The best way to stop all this from happening is to NAB the traitors. Expose all of them with HARD evidence and leave them to the mercy of the masses. This how to stop the infection from spreading.
In order to disinfect the nation from future traitors, we must get rid of the international banksters by nationalizing our central bank. We also need to work together to establish a financial system that protects everyday people from fraudsters and banksters, and create a judicial system that reflects our values and protects our beliefs.
yes, yes i agree. i do not understand why we are continuing this discussion. once again, i was just pointing out the fact that there is a foreign conspiracy against pakistan which eddied refuses to accept.
shafaq shaheen, Eddied and to all the rest of rawindian brain-dead zombies
Hay, sub humans of rawindia; when whole world is up on the next venture “The Post Democracy and What Next?” era, and dead rotten race of brahmun rawindians still doweling in the past era, soooo sad ah’?
But hay, we wouldn’t hold this against Britian’s black slaves brahmun bhindians, coz we know the short comings of bygarat and snack tong Brit’s black BRAHMUN INDIAN scumbag slaves.
Remember; your mata demoncracy actually in real never existed, nor exists and shall never exist, your beloved BRAHMUN INDIAN mata demoncracy is “Gone with the Hollypood/Bollycood Fart Winds”, FOR GOOD, SO GET OVER IT AND THINK OF YOUR NEXT NON EXSISTANCE FUTURE AS RAWINDIANS.
Dani you and Mr.321 need to learn how to hold a conversation without being disrespectful to those that do not agree with your vision or your interpretation.
Grow up!
Actually all began at 6th Century (500-599) C.E.
The Glorious 6th and 7th Centuries-All Pakistan Because Of the Most Blessed Era to Date*
It is because of the 6th and 7th Centuries that the world is what it is today, the 6th and 7th Centuries gave the world a new life a conceptual agreed agreements of sciences, visions, ideologies, programs, and degrees to all the mankind to live a life of beings, while not forgetting the 6th and 7th Centuries world over, has put this globe in prospective through the New World Order and directionalised over current values of all major and minor categories to set up submissions towards the creator of all and each and everyone and everything.
ALLAHU AKBAR
This is what a religious fanatic sounds like…Judaism and democracy are dead?…you idiots are believing your own lies again…
democracy is dead in ur own country. ure too brainwashed to see it.
oh wait sorry its dead in all western countries…the candidates are chosen by the elite. u ppl also invade other nations and install proxy governments posing as “democratic’ when in fact they cant even go to the washroom w/o ur permission.
rawindian brain-dead zombie, you idiots are believing your own lies again………..shut it, or I’ll come over and shut it for you and woulden’t leave you to screem; “”"”"OH PAKISTANI BOYS ARE HERE AGAIN”"”"”.
Abey band kar apna munh aur apni bachchey ‘dani’, warna koi Hindu Zionist usmay daal dega apna…!!
Quran and Musliman
The Book of Quran is living, breathing and timeless live information based scripture.
Read; The Holy Book of Quran-Cover to Cover once finished reading start all over reading The Holy Book of Quran-Cover to Cover and began reading again and keep up the cycle of reading The Holy Book of blessed Quran Cover to Cover over and over, and read The Holy Book of Quran to your families and friends and co-workers and subordinates and bosses and relatives.
I think a better idea would be to comprehend the book of Allah that to me is more appropriate. I also believe that we should not use religion as a pretext to derail an intellectual conversation. It is not only rude but also disrespectful.
qadri is a western agent and fools like khadija are too blind to see this obvious fact.
where does he get all his money from?
why does he have such a big ego? i thought he was a dedicated muslim?
ppl should got to this website read about him
cifiaonline
Mr.321, you talk a lot about Islam and tolerance…The reason why I say, keep Islam out of politics is because we have too many politicans that use Islam to their further their agenda, much like the one, this article speaks of.
I personally would like to see Pakistan built on the VALUES that Islam teaches. Not merely on a silly slogan. Islam is not about taking monies from foreigners and allowing drone strikes on innocent civilians. Islam is not about killing people that are different or that have a different lifestyle, or those that do not practice their faith. Islam, Mr. 321 is about tolerance.
Hurling insults to people with different view points is not Islam. You need to learn your Islam first, then work on your communication skills. After you have learned how to hold an intelligent conversation you can then express your views. If you can’t project the Islam you so invision then BUZZ OFF!
“The reason why I say, keep Islam out of politics is because we have too many politicans that use Islam to their further their agenda, much like the one, this article speaks of.”
i was only talking in general terms. it does not refer specifically to our political system. what i’m saying is that whatever government we have should not separate islam from politics. and btw no real islamic leader would ever go through a shirk filled political system to bring change to pakistan.
“I personally would like to see Pakistan built on the VALUES that Islam teaches. Not merely on a silly slogan. Islam is not about taking monies from foreigners and allowing drone strikes on innocent civilians. Islam is not about killing people that are different or that have a different lifestyle, or those that do not practice their faith. Islam, Mr. 321 is about tolerance.”
i agree…i have never said anything to the contrary.
‘Hurling insults to people with different view points is not Islam. You need to learn your Islam first, then work on your communication skills. After you have learned how to hold an intelligent conversation you can then express your views. If you can’t project the Islam you so invision then BUZZ OFF!”
i remember u in an above comment calling someone a “nut”. i apparently for all ur self-righteousness, u dont know even know that hypocrisy is not tolerated in any form in islam. i have demonstrated better knowledge of islam than u. u dont even realize that secularism is shirk! u apparently dont understand the concept of hypocrisy either…and dont worry about my communication skills. everyone understands me just fine. this is just another lame attempt to try and discredit me. nice try…
“i remember u in an above comment calling someone a “nut””. My dear, I did not specifically call any particular person a “nut”, what I said was that there are some nuts on this forum.
As for hypocrasy, you need to work on that more than anyone else. Since it is you that finds a problem with people of different view points.
Stop thinking of yourself as “Mr. know-it-all”. Teach the cocept of “agreeing to disagree”. Once you have learned it yourself.
“My dear, I did not specifically call any particular person a “nut”, what I said was that there are some nuts on this forum.”
ok. so u insulted not one person but a few…congrats!! how is that not an insult to those who think differently than u? once again, hypocrisy at its finest!!
“As for hypocrasy, you need to work on that more than anyone else. Since it is you that finds a problem with people of different view points.”
no i just do my research and give evidence for why i believe something. i havent ever told anyone to stop posting b/c theyre anti-pakistani or anti-muslim.
“Stop thinking of yourself as “Mr. know-it-all”. Teach the cocept of “agreeing to disagree”. Once you have learned it yourself.”
huh? i have said i know more than u; not i know more than everyone. if u dont like it then why dont u do ur own research for urself?
and i fail to see what the concept “agree to disagree” has to do with me. its called having a debate. if u want to end it then ure very welcome to say so.
btw i went to reread that post and this is what i found:
“whos the nut that says Zionism and democracy are dead?”
this was referring to the poster who had said that these 2 were dead. so yes u actually did call a specific poster a “nut”. dont worry i’ll attribute ur above statement to a lapse of memory.
I did not state that the person which wrote the article was a nut. I asked a simple question.
I make an effort not to offend anyone. It is challenging when folks try to discredit anything and everything that goes against the establishment.
“I did not state that the person which wrote the article was a nut. I asked a simple question.”
when did i say that u called the author of the article a “nut”? we are talking about ur reply to an above commentator…
In my reply I asked a simple question. That does not mean that I was disrespectful of the author.
The author has not taken offense to this, So why does it bother you? You need to move on. You will eventually loose your creativity by holding on to trivial things.
ok u clearly dont get it…i was pointing out that u were hypocritically saying that i “insult” ppl in my comments. i just proved that u have too and therefore u are a hypocrite. its as simple as that. and asking “whos the nut that says Zionism and democracy are dead?” is not a simple question…thats an insult.
You are more of hypocrit than anyone else, I did not insult the author, if I had, he/she would have responded to my comment and you know that. You keep babbling on about this because you just wanna safe face!
You need to get a real job.
right…lets go over what u wrote shall we?
first sentence: “whos the nut that says Zionism and democracy are dead?”
i suppose calling someone a nut is a complement now? at first i thought u had just missed this but now i know for sure that ure a compulsive liar. not to mention a hypocrite…
and then u not only insulted the author but u also wrote this: “This forum is full of nut jobs”.
so ure now insulting more than one person now…and ure calling me the hypocrite -_-
Well written article, but then we all know these facts like the back of our hands; if we know what is haram and halal, what is shirk and imaan, know to eat only from mouth, no matter how many holes in our bodies, we know what is black and white, we know what is wrong and right also, so we do know how wrongs are happening in front of us, it’s just we choose to look the other way , because we also are busy doing same or similar.
We willingly become salves, mushriks, war mongrels, money lovers, thieves, murderers, oppressors, molesters, rapists, fraudulent, crooks, mafias, la deenis, deceptive, liars, and become willing followers of deceptions, lies and on top of all this evil doings and deeds, yet we have edacity to still call ourselves Musliman, fake Muslimans and fake Pakistanis, even the Satan is ashamed being Satan comparing to our actions, sayings, doings, shirks and la deeni imaans.
TahirQadri has been actively deceiving, disrupting, degrading, targeting, liaising lies, cheatings, spreading wrong and begotten behaviours against deen e Islam while looting masses with his Satanic teams with their both filthy and bloody hands for years and years.
And this time round coming over from Canada, Qadri is doing all over what best he has been doing for years and years; spreading deceptions, misguidance, radicalisations and looting the masses right in front of us, and yet our actions and reactions are still very much the same and very complying too.
Great shame on us, but for Qadri and for many like him, their businesses go on “business as usual”.
Isn’t it sound way too familiar what was said in the Minar e Pakistan rally of Allama Dr. Professor Sheikh etc Tahir ul Qadri? Another angel landed on the sacred land to wipe out the smear and to give salvation to the people and bring in that elusive change. We already had many saviours including the resurrected Imran Khan and new entrant Dr. Qadeer and now we have resurrected Tahir ul Qadri too. The leader of the Tehrik Minhaj-ul-Quran, Tahir-ul-Qadri has set a deadline for Islamabad of January 10 to ensure that the system would be changed according to the constitution. Now I fail to understand as what exactly he is up to? Already the system is being run according to the constitution, which surely isn’t purely Islamic. But Tahir is not saying that to mold the current constitution according to Shariah, but he is saying to run the state according to Constitution, especially to hold the next elections according to it.Already the election commission is being run by undisputed and noble person Fakhurrudin G Ibrahim and NADRA has done good job of voter lists and Supreme Court is also keep an eye on the state of affairs, so why Tahir ul Qadri is boiling and what he is up to? What does he want? He is spreading ambiguity and that is the old and tested tactic of derailing election process. With his skirmish and ambiguity he wants to put the elections on hold and now it’s clear that establishment has brought him in out of the blue.
Actually all began at 6th Century (500-599) C.E.
The Glorious 6th and 7th Centuries-All Pakistan Because Of the Most Blessed Era to Date*
It is because of the 6th and 7th Centuries that the world is what it is today, the 6th and 7th Centuries gave the world a new life a conceptual agreed agreements of sciences, visions, ideologies, programs, and degrees to all the mankind to live a life of beings, while not forgetting the 6th and 7th Centuries world over, has put this globe in prospective through the New World Order and directionalised over current values of all major and minor categories to set up submissions towards the creator of all and each and everyone and everything!
ALLAHU AKBAR
Eddied says:
January 8, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Shafaq,,,apparently you are correct…321, nk, and others are so fanatical with a limited education that they see a conspiracy in anything that is western…this is the 7th century extremist mindset that is holding back Pakistan from joining the free world in the 21st century…
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Actually all began at 6th Century (500-599) C.E.
The Glorious 6th and 7th Centuries-All Pakistan Because Of the Most Blessed Era to Date*
It is because of the 6th and 7th Centuries that the world is what it is today, the 6th and 7th Centuries gave the world a new life a conceptual agreed agreements of sciences, visions, ideologies, programs, and degrees to all the mankind to live a life of beings, while not forgetting the 6th and 7th Centuries world over, has put this globe in prospective through the New World Order and directionalised over current values of all major and minor categories to set up submissions towards the creator of all and each and everyone and everything!
ALLAHU AKBAR
OUR VERY DEAR PKKH, PLEASE POST THIS NEWS FOR ALL TO READ TO GET A BETTER PICTURE OF MINHAJ QADRI EXPOSE’S.
Al-Azhar scholars expose Tahirul Qadri
January 10, 2013 . 37
Since the publication of the March issue of The Islamic Post in which we, Al-Azhar University scholars in Cairo, Egypt, exposed Tahir Qadri as a fraud, multiple exposés have been posted regarding Mr Muhammad Tahir, who has given himself the title “Sheikh-ul-Islam” and conferred upon himself the alias of “Tahir-ul-Qadri”, having spent a great deal of time, money, and effort promoting himself under the aforementioned title. He has managed to deceive many Muslims who are ill-informed of his background and have been deceived by the media glitz & glamour of his paid advertising published on the Internet.
In reflecting upon the warnings of the Holy Last Messenger (PBUH), we find that such people who spend such effort to achieve this type of recognition and honour upon worldly pursuits are always disgraced.
Tahir-ul-Qadri (a native of Jhang, in Pakistan) is founding chairman of the political party Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT), which was organised during one of the most corrupt periods in the country. He is also the head of the Minhaj-ul-Quran (MQI) organisation, which he also founded.
Questions have been put forth demanding documentation that Tahir was given the most illustrious and respected title of “Sheikh-ul-Islam”; however, he has failed to respond except with a flood of internet videos posted on Youtube, showing the President of Al-Azhar University, Muhammad Usama Al-Abd, using the title “Sheikh-ul-Islam” in the introduction of Tahir-ul-Qadri. Why didn’t MQI also inform the people that Al-Abd’s function with the university is administrative and that he doesn’t have any such authority to officially confer such a title? Pakistan is not an Islamic state like that of Turkey during the time of the Khulafa Uthmani, wherein the Sheikh-ul-Islam was also an appointed position endorsed by the Khalifa. Thus, no authority in the respectable country of Pakistan – or Egypt – can sanction this title in such a manner.
One salient qualification that earns the title of “Sheikh-ul-Islam” is evident in those who have attained the level of friendship with Allah (Al-Wilaya). We repeat the quote from Allama Shams El-Din El-Sakhawi, from his book, Al-Jawahir ad-Durar fi Tarjima Sheikh al-Islam Ibn Hajar, in regards to the title of Sheikh-ul-Islam: “Sheikh al Islam, as inferred from its use as a term among the authorities, is a title attributed to that follower of the Book of Allah Most High and the example of His Messenger, who possesses the knowledge of the principles of the Science (of Religion), has plunged deep into the different views of the scholars, has become able to extract the legal evidences from the texts, and has understood the rational and the transmitted proofs at a satisfactory level.” Sakhawi added that, “At times, this title is given to those who have attained the level of friendship with Allah (Al-Wilaya), and from whom people derive blessings both when they are alive and when they have passed on. Similarly, whoever has tread the true path of the People of Islam and has come out unscathed from the folly and ignorance of youth; and whoever has become a living apparatus for others in solving difficulties or winning a struggle, and a refuge in every difficulty: these are the meanings of the word as used by the general public.”
From an academic standpoint, it is becoming increasingly well known that Mr Tahir has plagiarised works that many Ulema have spent their lives researching and developing. Common sense leads us to inquire as to why he was in Egypt and needed Arabic translators – in areas where the colloquial Arabic was minimal. Every Aalim in Islamic history that held the title of “Sheikh-ul-Islam” (especially in the Arab world) was known, first and foremost, to be advanced in his knowledge of the Arabic language. Take from the example of perhaps the greatest Aalim in the Islamic world, Sheikh-ul-Islam Abdul Qadir Gilani. Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gilani was, and still is, known throughout the whole Islamic world for surpassing all of his teachers in all of the Islamic sciences he studied, including extraordinary levels of the Arabic language. Are we to believe that Tahir-ul-Qadri is of the same calibre of those who have excelled – via honest efforts and sacrifices – in Islamic knowledge and authored numerous beneficial literary works? Why is it no other follower of the Qadiri Tariqah, or even the Sheikh of the Qadiri Tariqah himself – El Sheikh Sayyid Mubarik Ali Gilani – has come to know of this declaration?
Our demand to Tahir-ul-Qadri for answers still stands:
1. Who made you Sheikh-ul-Islam, and on what ground?
2. Why are you accepting funding from Iran, especially when Iran has established its enmity with Pakistan? The Sharia is the standard of laws that Muslims obey and is an absolute must for any seeker on the Qadiri path, which your suffix suggests. Under which law are you adhering, wherein you find it legitimate to project interminable waves of flyers and big-screen television projections of yourself like that which is found in Iran and acceptable under Shia convention? Know that Almighty Allah condemns such people, as they are people of Shaitan. There is a strange tie that you still have not revealed to the public in regards to your relations with Iran, especially with your trip to Iran ten years ago, wherein your return to Pakistan was an immediate/overnight change of disposition supplemented with millions of Pakistani Rupees to fund the building of elaborate complexes.
3. What do you have to say, officially, to the charges levied against you from one of the high courts in Pakistan?
We know that Tahir-ul-Qadri is planning to return to Pakistan to instigate a “revolution” like the ones that have brought civil wars and instability to North Africa (i.e. Libya) and the Middle East (i.e. Syria), causing catastrophic grief and releasing a flood of extremists. Our Ulema in the United States, Canada, and Al-Azhar are condemning this false Sheikh and therefore we advise people to avoid him and stay away from him. Our statement to Tahir-ul-Qadri still remains firm: Keep away from our homeland, the United States of America, as history shows that your intent is to exploit and undermine the hard works and sacrifices of American Muslims for the sake of the New World Order.
–The Islamic Post
does iran even fund mr qadri? is there any proof? i suspect it is just an accusation b/c of the sunni-shia divide and the fact that shia support him. but then again he acts as if he is pro-unity as well and so this is no doubt one of the reasons why many shia favour him, albeit ignorantly. however britain DOES give him funds and he lives in canada, which means he also has its support as well.
Finally the two demands or the conditions out of seven that Al Qadri wal Minaj put forth to justify his so called sole ranger long march?
Al Qadri’s 2 Conditions/Demands include;
1) Dissolve current election commission and form independent one.
2) Election results not accepted if held without article 62, 63, 68 and 218 of the constitution.
Al Qadri wal Minaj challenges;
A) Government and opposition cannot form independent interim government ahead of elections.
But says;
B) Interim government should be formed after consulting with all stakeholders.
We all by now should know now the great game of the enemies of Allah, Nabi SW, Quran, Isalm and Pakistan.
These are in total main points of Al Qadri wal Minaj’s magical and mystical butterfly high D-RAMA;
• Protection of constitution=Protection of a foreign (English) constitution=SHIRK, Period.
• Supremacy of constitution/law=Supremacy of Anglo Saxons over Allah, Prophet and Quran=SHIRK, Period.
• Caretaker government=Foreign system= Fitnah ul Arad, Period.
• Electoral reforms=Foreign ramification=Fasad ul Arad, Period.
Al Qadri wal Minaj says;
ONLY holding ACTIVITY to ensure justice and supremacy of constitution and law.
ASTAGFERUALLAH
Innalillahe Inna ilehe rajeoon!!!
Har shaakh pay ulloo baitha hai, is chaman ka yaaro kya hoga???
@ Sher Jadoon & Others who are unable to see the wider picture :
Military leadership was COMPLICIT with the Americans in the Abbottabad fiasco. Political leadership was not to blame. They are just sitting ducks who will say what they are told to say by Kayani & Co.
TuQ is a Candian national – supported by elements within the US & GB intelligence apparartus PLUS ‘darlings’ in our military & ISI. He has rosen from the ashes and spent millions on his jalsa’s. After all, how can that be possible so soon ?
TuQ is selling the same s*** Imran Khan was when IK was the blue eyed boy of the Establishment – they have ditched him and now TuQ is their new pawn. IK is bot a bad guy but the military now find that he won’t toe the line because he is not a ‘yes man’.
TuQ – I wouldn’t go as far as saying he is a foreign agent but the US & GB governments are quite happy with his stance
because at then end of the day, Pakistan suits everyone just fine if there is disturbance and chaos in the country – why ? It makes Pakistan weak and vulnerable. A stable, democratic and prosperous Pakistan is not in the interests of many people – INCLUDING the Establishment.
So what is REALLY happening ?
The Army wants to takeover – simple. TuQ is a catalyst to create a state of anarchy. A few bombs will go off in our cities and the Army will try and invoke the DoN – Poor IC and the Supreme Court won’t be able to stand in it’s way…
OR….. (if this isn’t true)
Elections will be delayed and all this drama is being played out in order to achieve this because the Army need time to install a government that listens to their whims and fancies – that is far better than them coming into power directly through a coup à la 1999. Remember what the government has said time and time again : Elections WILL be held on time – yeah, that’s fine, but the Establishment don’t want that just yet.
God Protect Pakistan but Allah is angry with our nation, it is pretty damn obvious. The military elite are not loyal to Pakistan and neither are elements in our intelligence apparatus – they would sell Pakistan to the highest bidder because they are whores (pardon my expression). The politicians are greedy too but ‘democracy’ or people’s rule must be allowed to flourish if Pakistan is to exist – it is the ONLY viable option. Through a process of ‘political catharsis’, the dirt will be cleared and good governance will eventually prevail but it will take time – our military does and will not give this a chance to breathe. They are the most corrupt people in the land and you will be surprised. I’m not talking of the patriotic soldiers, junior officers etc. but the ‘elite’, those who make decisions and sit in the corridors of power.
TuQ is not saying anything new, he is just a can of beans with a different label. He has already been bought
PKKH !!!!
You ISI sponsored b******s !! You didn’t publish my comments
why do ppl immediately resort to baseless accusations? ever heard of something called “waiting for moderization”?