India’s 26/11 ‘investigation’ loses credibility as false-flag ‘terrorist’ intrusion exposed by Pakistan Media
As soon as US Secretary of State left India after completing her three day visit which accumulated serious intimidation against Pakistan (Ayman Al-Zawahiri presence and Hafiz Saeed Bounty confirmation along with Do-More Mantra) significantly on Indian soil, there were yet again headlines about ‘Mumbai’ similar to the one’s we saw in November 2008. Indian media had aired a Major terror aert involving the infamous Kashmiri resistance group ‘Lashkar-e-Taiba’ who had allegedly planned a sea-borne attack by dispatching yet again a well-trained 5 men squad from Pakistan via sea route to wreck terror in the heart of financial capital of India – Mumbai, at multiple locations; all this unfolds at the most volatile time this region is going through as Pakistan-US face a dead-lock over the Afghan War transition or perhaps to an unpredictable closure to a decade old conflict with un-ending violence.
According to reports, central intelligence agencies in India alerted Mumbai Police on Sunday by issuing 5 colour photographs of Pakistani terrorists aged between 25-30 who had landed safely in the city via sea and were warming up for the assault at naval installations, Bombay Port-Trust, petroleum installations in Mahul, Bhabha Atomic Research Center, Tata Power station and some strategic rail tracks and bridges between Pune and Mumbai. Given the gravity of the situation Mumbai Police Commissioner Arup Patnaik called a high level meeting on Monday to discuss heightening of security at important installations. Coastal police officers, deputy commissioner (port zone), additional commissioner (south region), additional commissioner (protection and security), Central Industrial Security Force personnel and Bombay Port Trust officials were among those who attended.
As the alert continued, Indian media pulled socks to air packages and marathon transmissions adding frenzy and sensations to the anticipated attack on the contrary ignoring the negligence of its agencies who were unable to apprehend any threat that succeeded to enter India from similar procedures as claimed to have been applied before. Any attack from Pakistani foot-print has long been anticipated to be a game changer between Pakistan and India, in fact this notion is used as a pretext and tagline by US-INDIA to haunt Pakistan by implying dire consequences, in case it does happen.
Luckily for Pakistan, all plans and preparations of Indian media evaporated on Wednesday evening when it turned out that the photographs of ‘terrorists’ issues by Indian Central Intelligence agencies to Mumbai Police are actually of Pakistani citizens, two of them traders in a ‘Hafeez Center’ Mobile Plaza in the centre of Lahore and one of them a security guard of the building. Our breaking story that was immediately published on the information provided by a source who identified the men with their complete identities and contact numbers in Lahore. The shopkeepers and guard were left in shock, once they found out that they have been labelled as ‘terrorists’ allegedly planning spectacular attack across the border. Detailed coverage was then done by covered by Mubashar Lucman at Duniya TV. An F.I.R has reportedly been launched and a protest has been planned later on Thursday against Indian government by Lahore’s Hafeez Plaza trade union according to president of the union Muhammad Fayyaz Butt who told us that he along with every Pakistani was deeply offended by the allegations by Indian agencies and irresponsible anti-Pakistan Media against innocent citizens of Pakistan. SP Gulberg Lahore, Tariq Aziz has said that the case would be handed over to cyber crime joint committee, which will probe on the acquisition of Pictures of Pakistani nationals by India; alleged Pakistanis have requested for security from police as well.
What if this ‘False Flag’ turned out to be a successful one?
Since 2008, we have been hearing this almost on daily basis, what if a similar attack does happen? The usual cliché of events would have followed. Both nuclear armed rival armies would have been on borders, volcanic ash would have encompassed the whole of south-Asia; Hafiz Saeed would obviously have been under arrest, his most efficient charity and disaster-management capable organization Jamat-ud-Dawa would be forced to shut down offices, few sold-out media personnel would have tabled stories of who these 5 men roved on ‘rubber-ducks’ and reached ‘Gateway of India’ by using ‘Harry-Potters’ witchcraft tactics and DNA samples by Hafiz Saeed’s lips found on their foreheads as he would have kissed-off the boys from Karachi. Perhaps, our brave defence minister (who recently reminded us of International-Sanctions if we remained reluctant in re-opening supplies) would have accepted the responsibility of possibility of such an attack by non-state actors. No one can guess what Interior minister Rehman Malik would have come up with. But, yes! This time there is another player involved who claims to have averted a possible attack by India in 2008 which could have affected her Afghan war effort; US would be willing to give every thrust that India need at this juncture where her defiance on drones and persistence on opening of critical supply route needs no logical or justifiable reasoning by any parliamentary committee or diplomatic norm. Hell-bent on making Pakistan a scape-goat of failures and to be very honest ‘humiliating defeat’ in Afghanistan, US would have happily given the slaughtering-knife to India in case any mass-level attack took place, regardless of any evidence, facts or leading investigations similar to what they themselves did post 9/11. Containing the out-break of any adventurism between nuclear armed militaries can be beyond anyone’s guess.
Are we oblivious to the Ambiguities of 26/11; role of Indian Intelligence agencies and Investigations?
Official Indian stance on the modus-operandi remains vague as ever, 11 Pakistani men crossed 506 nautical miles in a boat undetected by the Indian navy – which is on the move in these waters 24/7 (hundreds of fisherman are caught and released every month for accidentally crossing into Indian. Holding the city hostage for 62 Hours, with all varieties of Indian elite force unites ranging from Black cats to Marcos (India’s elite Marine commandoes who failed to respond to the call of duty) unable to apprehend terrorist who held them back despite the weeks journey on rubber-boats. Let’s closely analyze some intriguing pieces of this deadly puzzle.
Attackers ID’s
The details of attack, attackers and their suspected ‘handlers’ are already available on the media. Let us remind you that in a stark resemblance the pictures of alleged attackers were released by Indian authorities, total 8 pictures were rereleased whereas 5 of them appeared to be passport-type ID photos, and other 3 were of dead bodies barely recognizable 2 Images not shared for unknown reasons among the 10 attackers. What is interesting to note is that Indian police claims that they found these photos on the Identity cards found on the attackers, Surprised? (It happens only in India). Let’s talk facts, given the sophistication implied by LET, they sent their fighters with ID cards? Why didn’t the Indian competent agencies find the resumes that they might have brought to apply for jobs once they were done with the attack; alright, lets believe for a second that they did bring the I.D cards, what were the numbers then ? As we join the dots, let us remind you at this point that recent visit to India by Pakistan’s judicial commission requested to probe the doctors who conducted the autopsy’s of these attackers were blatantly refused by India without any justifications. Who knows if these men in photographs turn out to be living in some secret Indian Jails, or working in some villages or mobile shops somewhere in Pakistan.
Ajmal Kasab
Proceedings of the case brought against the only attacker caught alive, by the name of ‘Ajmal Kassab’. Despite the fact that the newly formed agency NIA (National Investigation Agency) declared initial investigations flawed and incomplete, Pakistan folded under international pressure from its allies and has been detaining seven Pakistani citizens to this day without any solid evidence or proof of their involvement in these attacks. On the other hand, the lone surviver Kassab is facing a death penalty in India – his plea is pending at supreme court. Indian turned the tide very cleverly in its favour in the initial phases of the investigation, due to smart media management and diplomacy. The twist in the story can be seen now when the judicial commission from Pakistan is currently on a visit to India and Indian officials rejected outright their request of cross examining magistrate who took Kassab’s confession, potentially the star witness against the men Pakistan continues to detain – as well as other witnesses. This is because there are a lot of blundres in the statement itself. One such example is that magistrate wrote in the statement that Kassab is from Pakistan, who only had an education upto 4th or 5th grade, but at the same time she is also writing that he is an expert of writing, reading and speaking of Hindi language. Does that make sound in anyway?? The Pakistani commission will only now take statements from the magistrate, doctors and some other witnesses (excluding Kassab) and will return to proceed on the case in Pakistan on the basis of these statements.
Missing Links and the Inside Job
What is even more interesting in this background is the Indian complicity in the case. There are many missing links which can potentiallly help solve the case and which may lead towards a more specific trial of accused ‘masterminds’ of this attack. The cases of Tauseef Rehman, Mukhtar Ahmed, Fahim Ansari and Sabaudin are the most important. Let’s have a look at the case of Mukhtar Ahmed, one of the missing links. It surfaced on the media after his arrest that he was an under-cover agent of Indian-Occupied Kashmir police department, and belonged to the counterinsurgency section. According to his department, he joined the ranks of police after his brother was killed by militants. This ‘under-cover agent’ was arrested on suspicion of buying mobile phone cards used by the gunmen – provided to him by Tausif ur Rehman; a clerk of eastern city of Kolkata.
Mukhtar Ahmed on his arrest told the same story of his under-cover duty to the officials of Calcutta police, for whom he was a big catch. At the same time it was considered a big blow for the intelligence agency for whom Mukhtar was a high-value-asset. His exposition puts his family and other assets at risk. Mukhtar Ahmed was later released by the courts of India, and his name was absent from the dossiers provided to Pakistan. Remarkably, like other Indian assets, Mukhtar Ahmad has now disappeared from the case investigation. It can be concluded by studying Mukhtar’s case that Indian intelligence agencies, or rogue agents either penetrated a militant cell or directed the attack, made to look like an attack by the LeT militants – killing and maiming hundreds in the process – and use it as an opportunity to target Pakistan and ISI and have them declared sponsors of terror at the global stage.
Who killed Hemant Karkare (ATS Chief ) ?
Karkare, who was killed along with Ashok Kamte and Vijay Salaskar in the first hour of the 26/11 Mumbai attacks, was probing the 2006 Malegaon blast and the 2007 ‘Samjhota Express’ train attack – in which over 60 Pakistanis were burnt alive on Indian soil – alongwith a number of other blasts in which a serving Indian Army Lt. Col. Shrikant. It should be noted that over recent years, serving Indian military and Intelligence officers have been found involved in a number of terror attacks accross India, killing hundreds of innocent citizens, in terror attacks that were also initially blamed on the LeT and ISI. The man investigating many of these attacks in which extremist Hindu terrorist outfits infiltrated and successfully used Indian security forces personnel to bomb innocent civilians, was none other than the chief of Maharashtra state’s , Hemant Karkare, killed within the first hour after the MumbaiAnti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) siege commenced. The book ‘Who Killed Karkare’ by the former Inspector General of Maharashtra state police, S.M. Mushrif, makes a fascinating read and lifts the lid on the horrifying facts allied to the mindset of Hindutva terror. Also read how Karkare received death threats hours before his death revealed by Indian Congress gen.secretary in embedded link.
Indian-Media’s ‘moral stand’ against Pakistan
Indian media is unmatched when it comes to hyper-patriotism, in fact insanity if to be precise. Their ‘Agent Vinod’ mind-set seems unchanged even though they claim to be meeting world standards; in Pakistan’s context they remain as ridiculous as ever. Recent revelations have exposed the bleak picture of India media which barely sees or dares to see the other side of the picture. If they were to be honest, they should have asked hard-hitting questions to the Mumbai-police that issued the vague alert after a hi-level meeting. Where were the Unmanned sea-surveillance vessels provided by Israel to guard their coasts ? They should have asked about the tax-payers money that was spent to reimburse security at coastal ports and vulnerable points. The Indian coastal security program destined to secure 7000km coastal line by ICG (Indian Coastal Guard) and Indian Navy by modernising with transponders, radars, and state-of-the-art warning systems also investing immensely to fortify Lakshadweep Islands; they should have been asked how these 5 men sneaked in, despite the magnanimous effort? It was only last month when Defence minister A.K Anthony review security situation in monthly meeting with all services chiefs in India, seemingly satisfied with their arrangements to welcome sea-borne intruders, yet they failed as if. Had been the media in India sensible enough to carry out their professional duties they would have done some great deal of help for their country, but yes they are still landing after the ‘Hillary-go ride’ as one Senior Indian NDTV anchor/Journalist Barkha Dutt gloats on her interaction with Sec.State Clinton on micro-bloggin site, Twitter.
@BDUTT had a great time moderating Hillary Clinton’s Kolkata Townhall. Found her candid, firm, focused, funny and easy going all at once.
Indian Media needs to critically analyse the whole Mumbai-drama right from the where it began to where it stands today after history of deceit by their defence system. Their mature approach in dealing with such sensitive issues and reassessment on the ‘library of dossiers’ (Inadmissible in court of Law as US considers them) will help them see four fingers pointing in their own direction.
Hate Mongering, Aman Ki Asha, MFN and Pakistani Media Response?
After initial stance four years ago, Pakistani media has completely given up any transparent investigations that could have led to facts clear enough as this recent debacle of Indian propaganda machine, our foreign office could have emphasized more aggressively on Kashmir and Water issues lest they hadn’t given in to the Mumbai propaganda quietly accepted in verbatim. Back foot diplomacy lead Pakistan nowhere instead further dented the legit Kashmir cause giving path to vulnerable and vested ideas of ‘Aman ki asha’ and “MFN” Most-Favoured Nation to boost economic ties that have never helped Pakistan’s economy in history; there remains no sense in wasting resources and energy in meaningless engagements with explosive issues under the rug. This is a false impression that Hafiz Saeed or DPC (Difa-e-Pakistan) is the spanner in the works between India-Pakistan relations, trade and cultural ties; on the contrary it has been proved by this incident with complete audacity about how Indian establishment and government is back-stabbing the efforts to normalize tensions instead they seem to be working on a different plan altogether, lets discuss this apparent plan briefly. Pakistan’s media and supporters of foundation less normalization should re-draw the map with some concrete engineering that can sustain a durable peace based on justice and facts. Serious issues of Water, Baluchistan, Siachen, Kashmir must be brought to priority to serve true demand of the volatile region.
Who is the ‘Principal Architect’; US footprints?
This could be the most alarming situation for Pakistan if US has resorted to some manoeuvring as a sign of desperation to the blockade of logistic supplies. Re-winding few weeks we saw US declare a ‘bounty’ of $10 Million on Hafiz Saeed same amount of money placed on Mullah Omar. Tough questions were faced by spokespersons at Pentagon and State Department and after Hafiz-Saeed’s famous “give me the money, I am telling you my location” press conference meters away from Pakistan Army’s GHQ in Pindi, US had to rephrase the bounty destined for information that could lead to arrest and convictable evidence against Hafiz Saeed. Only to make already well-known figure in Pakistan, US made a super-hero out of Hafiz Saeed. Later, Cameron Munter retracted the bounty and surprised by saying there is no such bounty; in circumstances which are mysterious Mr.Munter has stepped down from his office before the term of his assignment two days ago, the same time when Sec.Clinton re-confirmed the ‘bounty’ offer on Saeed. This whole saga lifted the curtain to shed light on an extremely embarrassing position of US that was without any doubt taken only to appease India for obvious reasons of a larger role in Afghan end-game.
Same desires could have been behind the recent hoax terror-alert by India which ironically coincides with CIA double agent foiled ‘underwear’ bomb attack thwarted in final stages. We have already discussed the consequences of what this adventurism could have meant for the region, lest it did served American interests to engulf the south-Asian region in to a larger conflict that can make Afghan-defeat microscopic in front of a massive potentially nuclear conflict or perhaps more practically as per US-IND point of view to surrender Pakistan to their demands of resumption of supplies, continuity of drone program and military operation against religious organizations in urban provinces and of course long awaited rampage in N.Waziristan.
What Next?
Pakistan needs no more indications on what threats it faces from US and Indian nexus, this failed false-flag should steer the way for a consensus between all institutions and a strong diplomatic, legal and factual response must be given to India and the world. Pakistan should stand its ground on regardless of the intimidation and pressure tactics that are in full-swing against the nation that has rendered the most sacrifices in this war against terror. Pakistan needs to re-assert itself, and with instance get out of the ‘Mumbai’ blackmailing by India by exposing Indian forged investigations and any verbal or physical attack on any citizen victimized by India or US, be it Hafiz Saeed, shopkeepers or those waiting for justice since four years in Pakistani prison for a false-flag attack 26/11 should be defended by all means, or it will turn out to be lethal as it had already been since 2008, and as it was about to be if the designers of anarchy hadn’t failed at the early stages, thanks to vigilant Pakistani people who pointed out at the right time.
Tabish Qayyum is the co-founder of Defense and Geo-Political Magazine Fortress and Investigative Journalist at PKKH. He is also a writer and educational consultant. Can be reached @tabesch on twitter
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Pakistan media exposed it too early; should have waited to see what the Indians had in planned and then released the pictures.
FOLLOWING QUESTIONS – A SOBERING THOUGHT:
Where did they get the pictures from and names from? Who supplied them? How far have the Indian agents infiltrated Pakistani society for them to be able to take picrures of and give attach correct names to the pictures?
@ Striver Bhai,
Scumbags of Aman ki Whasia/Endian-militia/GEO/Jung all are mainly in Lahore, doing their Aman ki Whasia freely.
Scumbags of GEO/Jung and Aman ki Whasia are part of Endian terrorist Hindo militia-RAW.
Every bit of information and photos are provided to Endian terrorist Hindo militia-RAW by the scumbags of GEO/Jung/Friday-Times/Noor-Jehan Magazine.
If investigated from these poor victims; we can find out who has taken their photos and information, they must remember something?
Aman ki Whasia=Muqti-Bhani=E-Pakistan=next possible target=cutting off part of Punjab
Aman ki Whasia is gathering up people to form a force within Pakistan to wadge a war against Pakistan.
i disagree. i think the pak media was right in revealing it early. this couldve gotten out of hand. better to douse the fire early with minimal to no damage than let it burn and then try and take it out.
No comment can be done on such propaganda by PKKH which is made to dilute the efforts and determination by both India and US to punish the guilty of Mumbai attacks. This is also noticeable that US is involved because American and Israelis were killed in Mumbai attacks. Nobody would have bothered even Indian authorities if only Indians specially Hindus were killed in this attack.
@—-tya,
Have you forgotten the hoax about plane highjacking by your Majoosi Shahnawaz,from Mumbai,to Karach to Lahore and finally to Delhi.You failed in Karachi and Lahore as we were awake.Then Shahnawaz said “It was a trial run”.
Indian Lomdi was at it again.
Dear Gotya you should know one thing clearly that until India is sitting on Kashmir Soil We don’t even want to see indians. friendship is another issue. If we would have wanted to be friends with them then we could have stayed with them in the first place. Aman ki Asha is nothing but the corruption of Pakistani Culture.
U endian is now twisting the way u want. But endians have been caught red handed. In Quran, ALLAH says, A man plans his way and Allah plans His way, and ALLAH planning wins.
read these gotya:
http://www.countercurrents.org/hansa050209.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/mithiborwala140510.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/mithiborwala181010.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/mithiborwala291010.htm
LOLOLOL…….HOHOHOHOH……….HIHIHIHIH………..HAHAHAHAH………LOLOLOLOL
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This writer can group together unrelated facts and rumors to try and deny Pakistan involvement in 26/11 attacks but the fact remains that 166 Indians were killed by someone. The only terrorist captured alive says that it was an operation planned in Pakistan….when will these extremists stop inventing conspiracy theories and face the bitter truth…
yes eddied they were killed by someone you should know who do you want me to quote that guy. have a look at this clip might refresh your memory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdLY94pvmyk
Whatever u say, endians have been caught red handed for the action they performed to defame Pakistan. U may twist ur statements as many times as you want.
deny all u want but facts are facts. and they actually do relate. just b/c ure too dimwitted to understand doesnt mean they arent. why dont u read these:
http://www.countercurrents.org/hansa050209.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/mithiborwala140510.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/mithiborwala181010.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/mithiborwala291010.htm
Don’t blame him. He’s not dimwitted…. he just did not attend the Zion Hamid school of brainwashing and moronisation where you’ve obviously got a PhD from.
yea i’m the one brainwashed…i guess no matter how much proof i give u , proving u wrong again, and again, its not u whos brainwashed, its me…i guess to ppl like u, those who tell the truth are brainwashed. ure just a gov lapdog who chews on any bone he’s given. u believe every singe thing that uve been spoonfed and dont even think once about questioning it, and supposedly ure the enlightened one? get a life.
Yeah – you’re right. They killed 160 people over 3 days because they really wanted to kill just Karkare… What was I thinking…… ofcourse it must be true. And considering that fact that the case Karkare was leading has now been solved and everyone is in prison, it make so much sense to kill 160 just for fun.
Yes – I can see how un-brainwashed you are…. silly me
“just to kill karkare”
neither i nor those articles said that it was “just to kill karakare.” there were definitely other factors involved. mumbai was a false flag terror attack.
“considering that fact that the case Karkare was leading has now been solved and everyone is in prison, it make so much sense to kill 160 just for fun.”
u apperently cant read. karkare was being demonised by indian politicians for trying to solve this case. this was one of the reasons for this false flag terror attack. karakre had even received death threats.
why do u even bother arguing against facts? u twist what u read to fit ur own skewed logic. just look at what u wrote: all of this was “just to kill karkare.” all this just so u can have a justification to deny the facts.
Todays Pakistan is waiting to expose the nexsus between army and Islamic Militia..It will be good for Pakistan and their people.
read these:
http://www.countercurrents.org/hansa050209.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/mithiborwala140510.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/mithiborwala181010.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/mithiborwala291010.htm
I have also the lists of such website addresses to counter.
But It is upto ur mindset and ur thinking processes.
Just breadth easy. They are pack of lies and twisting the whole story.
sure u do…u never post them. u just spread ur false propaganda. u cant counter facts.
@ PKKH
Scumbags of Aman ki Whasia/Endian-militia/GEO/Jung all are mainly in Lahore, doing their Aman ki Whasia freely.
Scumbags of GEO/Jung and Aman ki Whasia are part of Endian terrorist Hindo militia-RAW.
Every bit of information and photos are provided to Endian terrorist Hindo militia-RAW by the scumbags of GEO/Jung/Friday-Times/Noor-Jehan Magazine.
If investigated from these poor victims; we can find out who has taken their photos and information, they must remember something?
Aman ki Whasia=Muqti-Bhani=E-Pakistan=next possible target=cutting off part of Punjab
Aman ki Whasia is gathering up people to form a force within Pakistan to wadge a war against Pakistan.
#Endian RAW’s little rats#, conclusively in front of Pakistan your endia’s position is zero-sum. If you don’t believe this, than only look towards Sri Lanka, we’ve cleaned you out of Sri Lanka in mere one week, and how long you hindo RAW terrorists been there doing terrorism, thirty years through your hindo Tamil tigers LTTE?
Endia sirf aik hafty ki mar thi, and Pakistan soon will prove this once again to not only scum like you but to the whole world
Remember; Endia is at the mercy of Pakistan by the mercy of ours and your Allah. We hold your Endia’s keys, we got America into your Endia’s back side and we will get America out when America is done with your endia fully. Just mark these words you dirty schemer and back stabber endians, you have being warren, Pakistan will get you Insha Allah soon.
Pakistan Zindabad!
Endia murdabad!!!
That is why Pakistan did not dare to attack India openly as it has done in 1965 and 1971.
It is attacking in disguise of Muzahidin or LeT. Pakistan was under the impression that it has won 1965 war, actually it has not. 1971 taught Pakistan ever lasting lesson not to dare to attack India directly or more Banladesh cab be created in future. As far as LTTE concerned, it was Srilankan Tamilians who attacked Rajeev Gandhi and took enmity with Soniya India. No RAW is involved in Srilanka at all.
“That is why Pakistan did not dare to attack India openly as it has done in 1965 and 1971″
way to twist facts…why do u do this? india is the one who was constantly raiding pak territory in 1965 and operation grand slam was a response to that. india then invaded pakistan fully. and 1971…i why would u even mention 1971 in the same sentence as this? are u drunk or do u not know anything of history. in absolutely no official and non official version of events, has pakistan attacked india in 1971. it was india who supported the terrorist mukti bahini and then invaded us again.
“No RAW is involved in Srilanka at all.”
keep telling urself that…ur “peaceful, etc” india is actually just the opposite. its a power hungry, terrorist supporting country.
>>>>india is the one who was constantly raiding pak territory in 1965 and operation >>>>grand slam was a response to that.
India has never attacked any country. That is the reason India is a place where Zorastrian, christian,hindu,Jain, Budhism…florished here and living side by side. Although they have the problems…But it is okay.
Internet is a wonderfull media. Where u can search and research yourself. It is amazing source of knowledge. And to know India or Bharat u need not have to a Hindu mind or christian mind or anything. Only it requires an Open Mind without having any thaughts.
“India has never attacked any country. That is the reason India is a place where Zorastrian, christian,hindu,Jain, Budhism…florished here and living side by side. Although they have the problems…But it is okay. ”
yea india has never attacked a single country…i guess they dont teach u about 1965, 1971 or 1984 do they? and problems? hindus have persecuted christians, muslims and even their own, the dalits and this in a “secular” country.
“Internet is a wonderfull media. Where u can search and research yourself. It is amazing source of knowledge. And to know India or Bharat u need not have to a Hindu mind or christian mind or anything. Only it requires an Open Mind without having any thaughts.”
yes the internet is a wonderful thing. its now so much easier to expose india for the lying, terrorist supporting nation it is. the only thing u need to do to urself is to remove from urself the misconception that india is perfect, which many indians, mostly hindus, have a hard time doing.
>>lies of extimists
Your thaughts and writers thaughts seems to be full of dream. This is site is purely a cartoon channel. Here we indian can laugh on u how u r packed with lies and deceptions. U people are good for entertaining us. Here nobody can put word…or give thaughts…To have thaughts one should have little amount of rationality. Whether u maintaining one god or multiple god….Important is what is your contribution to the society irrespective of religion……
So cheer budy….And make us laugh…..this is good cartoon blog….
ive been spamming this alot lately but its for the good of the indians on this site who still believe the concoted fantasy fed to them by the indian media.
http://www.countercurrents.org/hansa050209.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/mithiborwala140510.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/mithiborwala181010.htm
http://www.countercurrents.org/mithiborwala291010.htm
So – the premise is simple.
26/11 was carried out by Indians using Pakistanis, who were stupid enough to do it, using telephone calls from Pakistan, after having killed 160 people in a few hotels, and the Israeli rest houses, and VT Station – just so that Hemant Karkare could be silenced. With the whole world watching and with the full knowledge that there would be a massive investigation at a later date…… yeah – kill 160 to really kill one.
Yeah – sounds plausible !!
This is India. If people wanted to get rid of Karkare, they would have just shot him.
What is surprising that theories like this are even believed…… do you know how much it would cost to stage an operation like 26/11 vs the cost of firing a bullets into him at a traffic signal?
“26/11 was carried out by Indians using Pakistanis, who were stupid enough to do it”
other kasab, who gave his confession under questionable circumstances u havent caught anyone else. furthermore some of those who u have accused lived in india. india only claimed that they came from pakistan so the could blame us.
“just so that Hemant Karkare could be silenced”
no, not only from that. the authors on this site believe that it was actually the US that planned it so it couldnt be to just kill karkare. india media always villifies pakistan and muslims, blaming them for terror attacks. this is one of the most well known ways of getting support for the gov. u carve out a scapegoat and then constantly blame them for everything. this is all b/c of foreign policy against pakistan. india doesnt want the anti pakistan and anti muslim feelings to die down.
furthermore u dont even realize that ur gov is a willing pawn in this game. the US doesnt want a direct confrontation with pakistan (for reasons that should be obviuos) and so theyre using u as a proxy to start a war against pakistan and india is most certainly willing to do it. this is the main reason behind 26/11. karkare was killed so he couldnt expose the hindu terrorists b/c if ppl start realizng that muslims and pakistan are not the ones carrying out these terrorist attacks then the anti pakistan feelings will die down.
#Endian RAW’s little rats#, CLEARLY SHITTING IN THEIR DHOTIES……..LOL…C’MON…TAKE IT EASY, NO NEED FURTHER LIYING AND MISCONSTURTING FACTS AND HISTORY.
OH DAM WHERE ARE THE SHINNY TOILETS, WANNA DO SHINNY CRAP IN SHINNY ENDIA?????
We do not want to see the dead faces of the terrorists who planned and attacked Mumbai attack. Pakistan is repaying its loan daily by sacrificing of their soldiers and citizens in one form or other. Why you Pakistanis bother to think about India when your own servival is at stake ? I do not understand.
“Why you Pakistanis bother to think about India when your own servival is at stake ? I do not understand.”
its b/c its india who is partaking in the destabilization of pakistan. maybe when u understand that then u will be able to understand why we’re “bothering to think about india..”
>>>who is partaking in the destabilization of pakistan
Wake up my dear. Throw ZIA UL HAQ…type of education into SEA..Close your eyes .Take a deep breadth in and out. Whole day keep attention on breadthing. It will ease your tension. It will help your understanding. If u r able to help yourself…Then think about others. When ever u keep on thinking about OTHER(India) …the problem will grow and grow…Again take a deep breadth in and out….It will ease your tension..Start looking inward..There is a great enjoyment of BEING YOURSELF.
Why u give so much importance about OTHER..Leave it other wise it will eat u. India is not on the run for GRABBING PAKISTAN….Definately not with this kind of lot…Please..Please….conquer yourself if u r on war…
…….Take a deep breadth in ….and out….It will ease your tension…..and lots of conspiracy theories……Just try to stop your brain to think…..This is the deepest form to know about yourself…..
cheer body…..
wat u wrote made no sense. all i understood was to stay calm. u dont need to wrry about that. im perfectly calm. u hindus cant refute my facts so u are trying to distract me.
“and lots of conspiracy theories……Just try to stop your brain to think”
wat exactly are u getting at here? to stop telling “conspiracy theories?” do u even know the definition of a conspiracy theory? let me give u a hint: its not a theory that goes against the gov story. and exactly how am i supposed to stop my brain to think? i would love to hear ur opinion. or are u saying to stop thinking? in that case no thanks. i like spreading the truth too muc to stop. srry.
“India is not on the run for GRABBING PAKISTAN….Definately not with this kind of lot”
amazingly i was able to decipher this part. india doesnt need to conquer pakistan. that would be their most desired scenario but they would be content with spreading their hegemony over pakistan and then over the rest of the region. and so that why they are destabilizing pakistan along with the US and israel.
>>>>why they are destabilizing pakistan along with the US and israel.
Destablizing pakistan cannot be and never be fruitful for india.
Destablizing north Korea by South Korea will never ever be good for South Korea.
It would be very nice to have a paddossi with strong and prosper.
>>and exactly how am i supposed to stop my brain to think?
This is catch….I love to do it.But it requie practice. I have very unique method to do this. Probably i have posted but unfortunately the editor has edited that portion.
>>i would love to hear ur opinion
I can assure u that experience of BEING NO MIND..is wonderful and awesome. This would be highest form of happiness. Will u dare to experience it?
>>>>do u even know the definition of a conspiracy theory
I have very different meaning of conspiracy theory.
Some times u r doing your work without much thaught. Later u find the reason why u have done. U were not witnessed to your job. To me it is conspiracy theory…….
“Destablizing pakistan cannot be and never be fruitful for india.”
*sigh* i guess u are uneducated in the geopolitics of this world. india believes by helping the west in destablize pakistan, they can divide it, and take therefore remove the only nuclear power in the muslim world. this, indiaand the US, believe will help spread indian hegemony over the region and help counter china. plus they will leaders that are indian and western puppets. besides india has never accepted the division of the subcontinent. they have been from the beginning try to conquer pakistan.
comparing the koreas with india and pakistan doesnt help u at all b/c there situation is different.
“Will u dare to experience it? ”
no thx. i like to use my brain.
“I have very different meaning of conspiracy theory.
Some times u r doing your work without much thaught. Later u find the reason why u have done. U were not witnessed to your job. To me it is conspiracy theory”
how can u have a different meaning of conspiracy theory? there is only one. everything other than the last sentence doesnt make any sense so i will only adress that. i never said that it wasnt a conspiracy theory. i even gave u hints, in the hope that u would find out for urself but i guess thats impossible. so i will tell u. a conspiracy theory is a theory in which it is postulated that 2 or more ppl worked together to bring about some event. thats the basic definition. so yes both urs and mine are conspiracy theories. the only difference is that mine are better supported and have much more proof than urs. urs actually dont have any
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