India Invaded Pakistan In 1971 Without Provocation: Know The Facts, And The Enemy
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—Time for some facts on India’s 1971 invasion of Pakistan.
First of all, there was no ‘Indo-Pakistan war of 1971′.
That’s a misleading description.
India INVADED Pakistan in 1971. Use the right words because there is a big difference.
Pakistani history books, official and private, need to be corrected.
There was a full-fledged, one-sided invasion across an international boundary. And it was an unprovoked invasion, preplanned. A foreign country exploited a chaotic election in Pakistan to launch a snap attack without warnings.
Remember: there was no Lashkar-e-Tayyeba in 1971, nor was there an armed freedom struggle in occupied Kashmir. There was no excuse of ‘terrorism’. India invaded Pakistan to hurt and kill as much Pakistanis as possible simply because India saw a good opportunity and seized it.
To this day, India deliberately uses the term ‘India-Pakistan war of 1971’ to avoid admitting what it actually was: an unprovoked of another country. Unfortunately, Pakistanis at all levels use the same description.
The Indian role in 1971 war is the dirtiest Indian secret. It’s been effectively hidden from the world. The Indians never discuss how they invaded Pakistan in that year. And Pakistanis discuss everything except the foreign invasion across international borders. The reason this invasion remains unknown is because of our inability in Pakistan to show the world what really happened.
This did not start out as a Pakistan-India war. It was a Pakistani election gone bad and political parties resorted to violence to make a point. Elections go bad everywhere and sometimes they get violent. It happened in Pakistan in 1971. India saw an opportunity in internal Pakistani chaos and invaded Pakistan across the international border without any provocation from the Pakistani side.
India exploited the fact that the Pakistani military was not on alert and that we did not have enough soldiers at that time in East Pakistan. Why weren’t there enough Pakistani soldiers to defend the territory against a foreign invasion? East Pakistan was geographically disconnected from the rest of the country. But more importantly Islamabad never thought that India would launch such a brazen attack on Pakistan without any reason, especially when Pakistan was a member in several US-led defense pacts. Pakistani planners miscalculated in believing they could rely on an ally such as the United States for help. [Indian government documents released this month show that Washington not only ditched Pakistan but also secretly told New Delhi it would support India in case China entered the war to help Pakistan.]
India’s blatant war of aggression was not a chance happening. It was meticulously planned. Two years before the ‘war’, India started secretly recruiting local peasants in areas of East Pakistan adjoining India. In two years, these recruits became foot soldiers for a terrorist militia known as Mukti Bahini that sprung into action as soon as the Indian army began the invasion. Indian soldiers and their terror militia went on a rampage, murdering Pakistanis on linguistic basis [Urdu, Bengali] to feed chaos and pitch Pakistanis against one another. This provided a cover for wanton killings by Indian soldiers because all killings ended up being blamed on Pakistan.
Wrong Pakistani political and military decisions helped the Indian invaders. Here is an excellent brief written by Mr. Mushtaq Sethi that helps in understanding the Indian proxy militia:
“Mukti Bahini were not just another insurgent force: on the contrary, their original core consisted of defectors from the former East Bengal Regiments of the Pakistani Army, who reached the Indian soil and also those Hindus who had fled East Pakistan and crossed over to India and had returned after having received complete training in the art of guerrilla warfare. They were soon reinforced by a considerable number of volunteers, mainly students, then during April and May, Pakistan had purged Bengalis from the armed forces. Many others defected, while those who remained were not trusted. Result was that the combat effectiveness of Pakistani units suffered considerably. Once in India, together with other volunteers from East Pakistan, they were trained and organized into six new East Bengal Regiments in June 1971. By November 1971, the Mukti Bahini was reinforced by the addition of three artillery batteries as well as a small flying service (operating two Aérospatiale SA.316B Alouette III helicopters, one DeHavilland Canada DHC-3 Otter and a single Douglas DC-3 Dakota transport). They were counting up to 85,000 and their order of battle during the war in December was as follows:
K Force/Brigade, consisting of 10th and 11th East Bengal Regiment and No.3 Field Battery- S Force/Brigade, consisting of 2nd and 4th East Bengal Regiment, and No.1 Field Battery- Z Force/Brigade, consisting of 1st, 3rd, and 8th East Bengal Regiment, and No.2 field Battery.”
The Indian terror militia was dismantled as soon as the war ended with the surrender of the outnumbered Pakistani units. India crowned its invasion with orchestrating a secession, declaring the occupied Pakistani lands an independent country.
If Pakistan does not and cannot trust India, it is because of India’s treacherous unprovoked invasion in 1971. India set many examples later that prove it won’t miss an opportunity to hurt Pakistan when possible. The Indian ruling elite, especially the minority Hindi-speaking bigots in northern India, have wanted to destroy Pakistan since our independence in 1947. They have some strange notion that Pakistani territories somehow belong to them according to their religious history. Some of them cannot forget ten centuries of our rule in the region and have a deep fear and loathing of anything Pakistani. If there is a war in Afghanistan, India would be the first to exploit it to send saboteurs into Pakistan from the Afghan soil. If the European Union decides to allow importing Pakistani textiles, Indian diplomats would spring into action to object. Indian writers, analysts and commentators in the US and anywhere else in the world are the first to launch anti-Pakistan diatribes whenever there is a chance to do it.
It’s a deep seated hate for Pakistan in the north Indian Hindi-speaking belt. And this hatred was at the heart of India’s decision to invade Pakistan in 1971.
Yes, we committed mistakes in our internal politics in 1971 that helped the Indian enemy in its designs. But we have learned those lessons. What is important now is that every Pakistani man and woman understand that our homeland faced a treacherous invasion and a blatant aggression across international borders in that year. Whatever our own mistakes domestically, that cannot justify a blatant war of aggression by a foreign country exploiting our internal situation.
Know the history. And know your enemy.
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Abey Aurangzeb ki aulad, yeh gadey murday ukhaad kay kya haasil karega? Agar gaand mein dum hai to Gazwa-e-Hind karo naa, woh hijda Zaid Hamid hai naa tumhara sardar…
@hello: Why you are feeling bad when facts are being exposed about 1971 invasion of East Pakistan? Why are you using colourful language against an article that enable Pakistanis to see the real face of India through it? Why your face gets red when Pakistanis talk about the cowardice and back-stabbing of of India? Why don’t you go out and celebrate the cowardice of India that she showed in the form of invasion on East Pakistan instead of showing-off your vulgarity?
Your language and accent is exposes your inner filth and hatred against Pakistan as a result of excellent articles like this.
As for Ghazwa-e-Hind, let me give you a good news. it would be India who will start Ghazwa-e-Hind. So we are waiting for you to start it. Its on delay from your side.
OH! Zaid Hamid! that man really give Indians nightmares.
This is not with hatred…
With due respect,kindly correct your history.It is an excellent article no doubt in it,but these occupying an reoccupying was started by Pak army in 1948/1965 which was the result of trust deficeit and resulted 1971.
India started full-fledged proxy war in the event of Pak’s internal turmoil just to justify Indira Gandhi was a potent leader and so the INC.
As Pak army initiated the game of capturing and recapturing immediately after independence,Which made the Indian army to think that way from the beginning.Neither Pak army would have done the misadventure in 48/65 nor there would have any 71 like scenario( Indian interference)
I am an Indian and am proud of my motherland and like any other common Indian does not support any war not only with Pak but with any other country.I strongly believe Pak citizen believe the same way.
This hatred languages,war,trust deficiency are all creation of political agenda and international vibes.Where most of the money is involved.
Like in Indian, if Pak becomes friendly neighbors with no infiltration, jihads ,bombings, suicidal killings,common civilian killings, then there wont be any special pay packages for the organisations who are involved in preventing them .
Same way in Pak,if India centric mentality is eradicated from Pakistanis then how will the Pak army manages the civilian government.As in Pakistan, the civilian Govt is the puppet of Army and ISI.which keeps the belief alive that India and Indians are bad and they are the first enemy of any Pakistani.Which helps Pak army to enjoy unanimous support and opportunity to use public funds with out any mentioned budget from the parliamentary Govt.These are the reasons for Multiple military coup.
Thanks.
@ Sohail,
Brother it takes courage to be in your position, ie to claim pride in a country which has seen so many state-sponsored religious riots take place, particularly against Muslims like you. It is heartbreaking to think that people like you will only ever be ‘mehmaans’ in your own country, with Brahmin landlords regularly reminding you that you are only there as a goodwill gesture.
I agree with some of your post – there are routes to peace in the subcontinent. Hindustan, a large, man-made country, has only ever seen moments of national unity by stoking religious tensions – hence the ongoing agenda with Muslim-majority Pakistan. This is further compounded by the scars of 1947, which saw the country smashed to pieces in a blaze of Muslim independence. However, if Hindustanis can come to terms with this loss, and also reconcile themselves with their own religious minorities, they will find that there is little need to keep stoking tensions with their defiant smaller neighbour to the west – and Pakistan will respond in kind, I can assure you.
In the meantime, I wish you the very best – you are part of a courageous minority in that troubled part of the world, and I pray sincerely that none of the routine minority killings ever effect you or your loved ones. All the best brother.
A
Architect,
I am sure your words are from your heart, because you believe those fears and apprehension for Muslim life and safety in India to be true.
I am an Indian, a very low caste Hindu at that. My forefathers were not allowed to cross the path of higher caste Hindus. So a lot of the stuff that our Pakistani friends criticize India for is a true reflection of India’s past.
However, let me tell you, that while a lot of the debilitating situation of low caste Hindus may still exist in some remote corners of the country, for the most part the situation of the low caste Hindus is VASTLY improved from what it was 100, even 50 years ago.
I have NOT ONCE ever felt any different from anyone else. I got educated in good schools, got good jobs in India(and by the way, I did NOT need reservations or government handouts…though I could have availed of them). I did two Master’s degrees from US Universities and am doing well for myself in the US. I owe a lot to India. NOT once did India make me feel any different or less than anyone else.
Now what I am going to tell you next may surprise you, though I dont speak from the authority of being an Indian Muslim, because I am not a Muslim. Growing up, I had a lot of Muslim, Christian, Sikh, and Hindu friends. We celebrated one anothers festivals…and I mean it literally, not in cliched tones. We really did. Not as something extra ordinary, or unusual, or patriotic, or philosphical. We did it, because that is the way it was done. Every one did it. Our family physician was Dr Khan, and he was a dear family friend as well. our neighbours, who lived in the condo/flat next door were Muslims (not Dr Khans family), and we had virtually an eclectic collection of people representing various religions and regions in our building.
The point I am making is that, this constant refrain (maybe ‘refrain’ is not a good word, because it connotes ‘fake rhetorical concern’), maybe ‘concern’ is a better word to represent the feelings of Pakistanis about muslims in India. Every time I read a Pakistani write lamenting the ’sad state of Muslims’ in India, I am bemused, and actually smile…not at your arrogance, or even ignorance about the condition of a majority Muslims in india, but I smile because it is so far removed from what I have known the multicultural life in India to be. Quite a few of my closest friends growing up were Muslims, perhaps by conincidence. This is not to say that Sikhs, Christians, or other Hindu boys n girls were not our friends, they were. However my closest friends from grade I through grade III were a set of twin brothers who were Muslims, and together we were called the three trouble makers. There were other Muslim boys who were my close friends growing up. And truth be told, it is only in the contet of this note that I am referring to them as Muslim friends. In reality they were just friends, as were others irrespective of the religions they followed.
In the greater part of two decades I have spent here in the US, let me tell you with some authority that though we Indians and Pakistanis are very close here in the US, despite the common language (Punjabi) or religion (Islam) that many Indians share with our friends from Pakistan, invariably the kinship and cohesiveness an Indian feels for other Indians and the Indian community is much stronger than say what they feel for the Pakistani or Bangladeshi or Sri Lankan community. Specifically, if you are under the impression that an Indan Muslim, who supposedly has grown up being deprived of his rights, and being hounded, and discriminated by Hindus in India, would be so relieved to meet Pakistanis and cry their hearts out to their Pakistani sympathizers…you are in for a HUGE surprise.
I have personally read time and time again how expatriate Pakistanis write in online forums about the ‘Extra Patriotic Indian Muslims abroad’ who behave as if they are more Indian than the other Indians! Some well meaning Pakistanis in the US who are amazed by the strong ‘Indian’ national/cultural affinity of Indian Muslim, actually lament and attribute it to some sort of ‘Stockholm syndrome’ wherein the helpless ‘kidnapee’ develops warm feelings for the ‘kidnapper’. Nothing can be further from the truth. And what i am about to say may surprise you even more, and I say with some experience as I am old enough to see the transformation of India over the decades…The quiet, yet strident, patriotism that younger generation Muslims in India display, is not the kind that you would be tempted to explain away, as a ‘make believe’ display to win the ‘good will’ of Hindu ‘thugs’ that swarm the neighborhoods with ’swords’ and ‘machetes’ ready to behead minorities..as possibly is the folklore in Pakistan. The truth is far from that.
Now I will not laugh at you if you point out that ‘Mass Murders’ were carried out in the Gujarat Riots, or the many other riots, that happened in India. And as an Indian, and a Hindu at that, I do NOT condone the inaction, actually the very obvious SUPPORT for violence and brutal murders, and rapes, targetting our Muslim brothers and sisters of Gujarat, that were perpetrated in the post-Godhra riots. That a lot of them were surrounded by thousands of youth, and petrified and helpless for their lives, they tried calling people over the phone all day long, while the state stood a mute witness…is a sordid sad tragic unpardonable chapter that will be a shameful and very painful reminder to what religious hatred can cause people to do. Worse still, in this instance, cause an elected head of government to turn away from helping, or actually encourage the perpetration of such mindless, blood curdling, mind numbing violence, against a minority. I personally would have loved to see the PM of the day, dismiss the Government in Gujarat, despite both being from the same Political Party.
Difficult as it is for most people to digest, while that incident justifies a lot of your fears, it still is not representative of INDIA’s multi cultural society as a whole. And I am not trying to trivialize the thousands who lost their lives and limbs in those riots.
Without a doubt we have a lot of challenges ahead of us in India.
That said, India has come a long way in uplifting religious and caste minorities. While quoting ‘token trophies’ would do little to help the cause of those still suffering, I will just go ahead and do that…hold some trophies aloft.
India has several Lieutenant Generals, and Major General rank officers currently servring in the Indian Army. India has had a Muslim Airf Force Chief Idris Latif, who went on to become a Governor of two states. India recently had a Parsi Air Force Chief. Several Christian Admirals have been Navy Chiefs, many more C-in-Cs. Atleast one Christian has been Indian Army Chief. India has had atleast three Presidents who were Muslim…Fakrudin Ali Ahmend, Zakir Hussian, and recently President Kalam. Even during the 1971 war there were several ranking officers of various faith leading India’s charge…Gen Manekshaw, the Army Chief, was Parsi, General JFR Jacob was a Jew. Several Chief Ministers of States have been followers of the Islamic or Christian Faith. I could quote more…but I am sure you get the gist.
Likewise, very many individuals from the so called lower castes have made it to the very top of Indian society, including the President and Chief Justice of India. A low caste woman is the Chief Minister of India’s largest state.
So while India is gripped by huge challenges of poverty, inequality, corruption, desitution, and a myriad other problems, India has come a long long way on the dreary, often times hopeless, journey out of the quicksand of religious animosity and caste differences.
We are not out of the woods by any stretch of imagination, as we still are one of the most poorest nations on earth (our collective purchasing power which makes us one of the largest economies…thanks to our 1.2 billion population, notwithstanding). While we have a huge fight ahead of us against poverty, illiteracy, lack of sanitation, hunger and basic necessities for our people, I still dont agree that India is like Nazi Germany was when it comes to minorities.
India may not be as just, fair and accomodating towards minorities, and lower caste people like me, as other countries in South Asia, and its constitution may not be as strong a guarantor of equal rights to minorities as these other nations…but please give us some time and patience. We may with time be able to live up to the standards set by these other nations when it comes to minority rights.
But till that happens, please do not be surprised by the patriotism of Indian Muslims like Sohail, or lower caste Hindus like me. Believe me it comes from deep from within our hearts.
@ Setu Madhavan
Dear Brother, I appreciate your sentiments and thank you for the calrification. Hats off to you Sir. I mean it. I have always firmly believed that racism exists in a minority, majority of people get on with life and accept and respect others for what they are. I have met many Indian Muslims who do not have issues in India, you are right. There is good and bad in everything. Over here in Pakistan, we were doing fantastically well until the late 80’s. The Soviet occupation and subsequent war fought with the Mujahideen destabilised Pakistan. Pakistan initially struggled but eventually started to prosper once the US left the region. Nawaz Sharif’s second tenure was much better in terms of our economy and the many socio-economic projects that were in the pipeline. Our Eastern border was quiet and peace with India was a reality. However, an adventurous General came and started a conflict with India in Kargil without informing his PM and then a few months later took over the reigns of government via a well planned and pre-meditated military coup. Look where we are now and the rest is history.
All I want to say is there is good and bad in everything. Sure, India has it’s problems and Pakistan has too. You know yourselves better than us and vice versa. What we must ensure is that BOTH countries stop destabilising and interfering in each others internal matters whenever the opportunity arises. We are as bad as each other, tit for tat. But I assure you of one thing and that is the 100 million strong youth, who are the future and backbone of Pakistan, are as vibrant as ever and they want peace and trade with India.
You talk of patriotism. There is intensely passionate patriotism on this of the border too and sometimes it leads to emotionalism – forgive us but generallhy, we all wish to see both nations living prosperously side by side. Hell man, imperial powers have played us against each other for far too long and destabilised the whole of South Asia whilst doing it !
you bloody Pakistani man trying to instigate an Indian? Which family don’t have internal conflicts and in such a huge and great country like India is happens. And who better than you Pakistani can experiance this. Americans are killing your people and you are silent saying they were terrorists, each day bombing. You people are killing your own beloved. And still trying to pour communal hatred in Indians. Kitne kamine ho yar. Apna ghar sudhar lo. World is developing, try to match your steps. Don’t meddle in others matter. Your leaders and preachers never wants you people to develop otherwise you wont follow them and you people are just blindly believe in them.
I have no idea if you’re still following the post or not, but here’s a clarification to your statements.
India has not instigated a SINGLE war. here’s the facts:
1947-49: Kashmir opted to remain seperate, India respected the decision. But Pakistan attacked Kashmir. India took it’s chance and agreed to help the Princely State in exchange for a secession of territory, which we did, confining you to a tiny part of Gilgit.
1965: For no apparent reason, we were attacked, and your plan failed miserably. Your army wanted to capture kashmir, it ended up making it’s last stand at Lahore 9which it defended successfully, I give ‘em credit for that).
1971: Pakistani atrocities in Bangladesh were causing millions to flee to India. After all this, India was being forced to take care of these refugees. So the RAW helped the Mukti Bahini, and India voiced it’s support for the freedom fighters. Pakistan attacked India, simply for voicing support (remember, no one knew about RAW’s involvement back then). Again, their plan backfired, and it ended up with India liberating Bangladesh, capturing a third of your army, blowing up most of your fuel, grounding your airforce, and sinking your ships and subs.
1999: Your country sneaked terrorists into the country, and prepared your artillery to bombard us. Again, the plan backfired, and this time bootlicking the US and UN didn’t help like last time. But India showed considerable restraint, and didn’t finish off Pakistan.
I wonder what truth is there in the article for Pakistanis to read.
Abhat saale tere Bharat ke 1947 mein tukde tho liye thay, bhool geya kya!!?
Abe chootiye, 1971 mein tere Pakistan ke tukde tho liye they. bhoo geya kya!! ?
Exactly my thoughts! I mean, can a Pakistani who laughs at India getting partitioned in 1947 just forget pakistan’s dissection by India’s Military into two pieces in 1971! 95000 Prisoners Of War, and you guys are going way back into 1947…but you forget to notice 1971!
And to my Pakistani friends, I am not using abusive language, and I dont want to celebrate any Military conflict, even if my country came away victorious. Because truth be told, thousands of brave young men on either side lost their lives, and their families lost a loved one.
That said, please dont mock 1947, completely ignoring 1971.
well considering your pathetic and disgusting history, you would love to forget yours. You past present future is not worth much, which you’ve just shown, nations with this thing called “dignity” remember their history.Just like your ancestors were stupid enough to think they could take on Pakistan, but then got their asses wooped, your generation thinks the same about Pakistan’s offensive., INSHALLAH it will be proven in due time! Now why don you go back and watch your bolywood, thats the only thing that’ll make you feel good about yourself.
RAW and CIA have been trying to recreate 1971 by funding and training Tehreek-e-Taliban (TTP) Pakistan since 2007. US pressured Musharraf to attack Lal masjid in 2007 which laid the foundations for militants to join TTP. They were trained and given weapons by RAW and CIA in afghanistan to carry out terrorist attacks in pakistan. Pakistan army conducted operations against these foreign militants in swat and waziristan till they were on the run. When Raymond Davis was caught in Lahore in jan 2011, ISI discovered that CIA and RAW spies in pakistan were behind the terrorist attacks in Pakistan. The big blast in peshawar in 2009 was carried out by a RAW female spy who left her car packed with explosives in the peshawar bazar. It led to the massacre of 200 innocent pakistanis. Pakistan army has understood the big game now and that is why it has started defying US intervention in pakistan. Better to stand up now than be sorry later like in 1971. Love you pakistan and its army. God bless you. amen.
Yes, INDIA has invaded east pakistan in 1971 but not without any provocation.Pakistani president gen Yahyakhan and Tikkakhan created such a situation in east begal that India had to intervene militarily.this was to save remaining Hindu population from massacre by AL-Badra and wicked pakistani coward muslim army.Sending bck of 10 millions of refugees back to bangla desh was not possible without defeating or surrendering of Pak army in Dacca. On the contrarary, Pakistan attacked INDIA,s western border without any provocation and hit on a dozen airfields on 3 December 71. Result was Pakistan was completely defeated in the east and subdued in the west.Pakistan was further truncated, losing its eastern wing forever.
@ Aurangzeb
White lies
Black lies
Grey lies
Black and white lies, lies within a lie and so on, please feel free to classify your article in one or more of the above iterations. The point is not who invaded whom, the real reason or at least the precipitate reason was the denial of political rights of Bengalis and the brutal military crackdown by West Pakistan Army.
Something very similar is happening in Baluchistan these days, Baluchis treated as a second class sub human populace. I know a few retired Army men who still cry in their old age for having done what they did in Bangladesh…it isn’t just the American troops who suffer from PTSD, it comes in various forms, even to staunch Muslim warriors who all wanted to be martyrs.
In this day and age with online access to journals and books and myriad other sources, at least raise your game if you have to obfuscate the truth. I know it is too much for this fly by night quasi military propaganda website, I sympathise.
May that warrior saint Zaid Hamid be damned for brainwashing you…red capped nutter that he is.
u have no room to criticize pakistan for treating others as “sub-human” u hypocrite. are u forgetting the dalits. what about the maoists and the countless others who u treat as if theyre animals. u even have a name for those kinds of ppl. what was it again? oh yea, UNTOUCHABLES. does that ring a bell? there is countless proof for this. where is ur proof that balochistanis are treated as “second class sub-humans”?
“In this day and age with online access to journals and books and myriad other sources, at least raise your game if you have to obfuscate the truth. I know it is too much for this fly by night quasi military propaganda website, I sympathise.”
once again such a hypocritical statement. i suggest u ALSO do some reasearch. and besides if u think this is a military propaganda site then why are u on it? get lost then.
Untouchables is the thing of the past in India.An untouchable is a chief minister of India’s most populous state UP. In name of Ambedkar, several educational institutes are opened and several airports and universities are renamed. Untouchable today is biggest vote bank of congress next to muslims. These are the people who do not believe that Pakistan was a part of Inda before 1947. Congress has made all to forget that Pakistan was a part of India.Karachi, Lahore Multan and Sialkot , Attock and Peshawar all were a part of India only. Foreigners have captured them with help of interirors i.e. Black Angress Congressians.
http://paktribune.com/articles/Indian-Caste-System-Pushing-%22Dalit%22-towards-Wall-241257.html
“According to the Amnesty International Reports of March 2011 , in Indian occupied Kashmir under the garb of the Public Safety Act (PSA) to incarcerate suspects without adequate evidence, India has not only violated their human rights but also failed in its duty to charge and try such individuals and to punish them if found guilty in a fair trial. Between January and September 2010 alone, 322 people were reportedly detained in addition to the raping women, punishing and killing “Dalits” Maharashtra, Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh, Tamils and Bru areas.”
A
and the poiint is about who invaded who or the xtension of it. if that indian puppet mujib rehman hadnt stopped the talks and started their rebellion then the talks might have gone somewhere and this wouldnt have happened.
srry forgive me the reason should be what was the reason for what happened. and who was behind it.
This is not with hatred…
With due respect,kindly correct your history.It is an excellent article no doubt in it,but these occupying an reoccupying was started by Pak army in 1948/1965 which was the result of trust deficeit and resulted 1971.
India started full-fledged proxy war in the event of Pak’s internal turmoil just to justify Indira Gandhi was a potent leader and so the INC.
As Pak army initiated the game of capturing and recapturing immediately after independence,Which made the Indian army to think that way from the beginning.Neither Pak army would have done the misadventure in 48/65 nor there would have any 71 like scenario( Indian interference)
I am an Indian and am proud of my motherland and like any other common Indian does not support any war not only with Pak but with any other country.I strongly believe Pak citizen believe the same way.
This hatred languages,war,trust deficiency are all creation of political agenda and international vibes.Where most of the money is involved.
Like in India, if Pak becomes friendly neighbors with no infiltration, jihads ,bombings, suicidal killings,common civilian killings, then there wont be any special pay packages for the organisations who are involved in preventing them .
Same way in Pak,if India centric mentality is eradicated from Pakistanis then how will the Pak army manages the civilian government.As in Pakistan, the civilian Govt is the puppet of Army and ISI.which keeps the belief alive that India and Indians are bad and they are the first enemy of any Pakistani.Which helps Pak army to enjoy unanimous support and opportunity to use public funds without any mentioned budget from the parliamentary Govt.These are the reasons for Multiple military coup.
Thanks.
@ 6
Actually talks were stopped and stalled by Yahyakhan and Z A Bhutto. Listen to speech by Shikh Mujeeb of 7 of March 1971 at Dacca racecourse. Bhutto did not agree to handover power to Mujeeb inspite of mandate of Awami League. It was a failure of Pak army despite the operation Searchlight by Tikkakhan on 25 of March.
u have no room to criticize pakistan for treating others as “sub-human” u hypocrite. are u forgetting the dalits. what about the maoists and the countless others who u treat as if theyre animals. u even have a name for those kinds of ppl. what was it again? oh yea, UNTOUCHABLES. does that ring a bell? there is countless proof for this. where is ur proof that balochistanis are treated as “second class sub-humans”?
“In this day and age with online access to journals and books and myriad other sources, at least raise your game if you have to obfuscate the truth. I know it is too much for this fly by night quasi military propaganda website, I sympathise.”
once again such a hypocritical statement. i suggest u ALSO do some reasearch. and besides if u think this is a military propaganda site then why are u on it? get lost then.
Similar situation exists in Kashmir, Southern Philippines, India, Palestine, Tibet and many more countries….Lets see you sort them out then? Trust Hurts…and oh, by the way, It wasn’t really a war between Pakistan and India in 1971, more of a war between Pakistan and USSR (as it was know then). Some of the pilots and troops captured by Pakistan were Russians! See how we took our revenge..we USSR in to many pieces and it no loner exists except in history..now there is just Russia…INDIA IS NEXT!
It’s ludicrous how this article says it time to deal with facts and then claim India “invaded” East Pakistan unprovoked! Even official Pakistani records show that Pakistan launched the first shots by launching Operation Searchlight that created a intolerable mess with millions of people escaping Pakistani barbarism and brutality.
The so called “all muslims are brothers” garbage apparently only applies when there are no “infidels” to persecute!
Here is another tit bit of history for the ignoramus who wrote this piece of trash:
“On the evening of 3 December Sunday, at about 5:40 p.m.the Pakistani Air Force (PAF) launched a pre-emptive strike on eleven airfields in north-western India, including Agra which was 300 miles (480 km) from the border”
This was the start of the Indo-Pakistan War of 1971. A war that should have made the Pakistani military disband and commit suicide if they had any sense of honor.
Pakistan with it predictable stupidity and lack of any semblance of honor or integrity has ALWAYS attacked India first, in every major confrontation. And India has always beaten back the Pakistani aggression and taken the fight to Pakistan!
PKKH is another Islamist mouth piece for the disgrace that is the Pakistani military. It is really a wonder how a military that has been such an enormous failure and such a great betrayer of the Pakistani state and the Pakistani people, has been allowed to become so powerful! Since the creation of the Pakistani state, they have achieved nothing but greater disgrace and brought more shame to Pakistan. Why make so much effort to defend such a failed institution ?
Here is another tit bit of history for the ignoramus who wrote this piece of trash:
“On the evening of 3 December Sunday, at about 5:40 p.m.the Pakistani Air Force (PAF) launched a pre-emptive strike on eleven airfields in north-western India, including Agra which was 300 miles (480 km) from the border”
where is ur proof?
@ 321
But ample proof exists with grand photos of General AAK Niazi surrendering to Indian army eastern command General Jagjitsingh Arora. Aam khanse matlab rakho. Ped kyo gin rahe ho.
and besides ure the one who violated international law by training terrorists, the mukti-bahini. the bengalis were most likely escaping the cruel and disgusting barbarism showed by ur terrorists. not only that but YOU were the one behind the rebellion. if this is true then the attack is justified and it can’t even be called a first strike as it was a retaliation.
@ 321
your number should have been 123. why 321, i do no know. Bhutto was also Z A. not A to Z. Yani sab kuchh ulta. jab soch hi ulti hai, to sub kuch ulta. Actually, India attacked east Pakistan on 21 of November 1971. Battles at Hilli, Chaugacha and Dhallai started around 22 of Nov. Your all begali veterans of 1965 war were against Pakistan. Major Zia ur Rahman fought with India in 1965. One thing must be accepted most of Pakistani troops fought hard like FF and PUNJAB. It was sheer badluck which were not with Pakistan 1971. Both China and US ditched Yahya khan. Tank ambush at Kushtia also well planned. Ultimately. Sins committed by pakistani army in Dacca, Khulna and Chittagong superseded a good work done by pak army in northern sector under Nazar Hussain Shah.
besides ure the one who violated international law by training terrorists, the mukti-bahini. the bengalis were most likely escaping the cruel and disgusting barbarism showed by ur terrorists. not only that but YOU were the one behind the rebellion. if this is true then the attack is justified and it can’t even be called a first strike as it was a retaliation.
Correction…It was AFTER the invasion had started in East Pakistan..Check your dates.
Hmm some points to ponder: “Elections go bad everywhere and sometimes they get violent.” – Well tell me one instance where it got as bad as a planned killing of 30000 Bengali population in one day via operation searchlight http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Searchlight
Hundreds of thousands of people have died in the following months. You have totally ignored the genocide on Bangladeshis. The world noticed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16207201 but there was a media blackout in Pakistan. India had to intervene because almost 10 million people took refuge in India to run away from the Pakistani army onslaught on the Bengalis.
You have no idea about what your army did to Bangladeshis. Yesterday it was victory day. But I saw this message from my Facebook friend that he cannot cheer because he has lost his sisters and mother brutally killed by Pakistani army in 1971. Almost every family has got a scar. Someone had died or villages torched, someone was put in misery by displacement.
What Pakistani army and politicians did was to capture power (not transfer power to elected people from East Pakistan). The common Pakistanis were fed with propaganda. No matter what fabrications people will generate to cover this genocide it will come back to haunt them forever.. because the evidence is everywhere – just google…
why dont u read this article: http://rupeenews.com/2011/12/1971-why-the-surrender/
how can u call it a genocide when women and children werent targeted. it was a war aimed at stopping a rebellion. ofcourse u would trust bbc…one of the most unreliable news agencies in the world.u forget about the terrorist organization mukti-bahini which was trained by india and sent to fight the army. india didnt “have to intervene” they were behind the rebellion the whole time. how can u blame the pakistanu army when it was u who sent trained terrorists who probably committed most of the attrocites u attribute the pakistanis to. ofcourse we’d never rlly know would we? the winning side always erases the truth if it doesnt suit it.
Check out this video to know what India is all about, dignity, honour and responsiblity…which you idiots will never learn, with those hate-filled hearts of yours:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDjfq-CQULk
Endians (baniyey) r a clever nation. First they were riding on muslims shoulders for 1000 yeras. then endians did riding on russians shoulders, now these endians r in the lap of US and enjoying the ride. Based on different thinkers, Hinduism is not a religion… it is acceptance of norms and traditions from the surrounding environments. Same methodology applies when it is about the relationships with the world community. It means, they don’t have faith on anything except self existence. And for self existence they’ll follow the flow of stream. Tomorrow, u’ll see the endians will be enjoying riding with Muslims again, in the period of Prophet Issa’s return. Quran tells us about Yahood and Nasara and warns about theirs tricks, why not hanood (though they are big in population). Think!!!!!!!!
Let endians enjoy the US ride, soon they’ll be enjoying Muslims ride again (cycle starts again). Because they can never lead the ride. It’s not about hate … it is about the perception and what history tells.
@Nad,
LOL,hilarious coming from a country that has only hired itself out to outsiders since its formation.All is being revealed as how Pakistan itself has been sold in bits to Saudi Arabia,USA,China.
The drones killing Pakistanis were coming from Pakistan itself.
And who are you to talk of Muslims!
Pakistan is a small country with and it is not the leader of Muslims nor does it have any important history in Islam unlike like Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
Pakistani like to spout muslim muslim when convenient while adopting policies that are antiislam.
@ rajk…
Yes, Pakistani leadership sold themselves to US/China/Saudi Arabia, but not the Pakistani people (they are completely opposite). endians have changed their life styles, dressings, living standards, brought corporate culture, movies, songs, bikinies, and many more…. inspired by the west (USA)… before western culture hindus were following muslims traditions and life styles. first look urself before talk about others… u guys change urself so quickly (no faith on anything). And yes, Pakistanis have adopted some of the western culture also but also trying hard not to adopt the western culture(because of non-islamic actions). That’s why West is so eager to kill and destabilize Pakistan. Trust me, if today Pakistan accept the existence of israel and bring western culture like endians … Pakistan economy will shoot up. One more thing, this economy system is against the economic system of islam … another reason to kill Pakistan
U r saying that Pakistan does not have history like Saudi and Turkey… if u r talking about leadership (to lead the muslim world)… Yes, Pakistan did not have the opportunity. For your information, Pakistan has a rich and a long history since year 1000AD when arabs came to sindh valley and spread islam.
Adopting and inspiring one’s culture and selling yourselves are two different issues.
For instance, if we find some problem with existing system we can always adopt or inspired from someone else trying to be perfect but does that mean you need to sell yourselves to them .
Do you really think Israel needs Pakistan’s acceptance,Just for time being lets say Pakistan accept their existence then what ?? They will donate Pak weapons ??
Now,lets say Pakistan adopts western culture then what ?? How can you mix culture with Economy.
West are of capitalist economy and Pakistan’s economy is mixed like India’s economy.
To be economically strong one need follow west (capitalist format),for example China is a communist state and is the second richest country.
20% of Muslim population of the world resides in Arab countries and they are richest Muslim states,but they didn’t accept west culture or west methodology.
Yes,here you can say the richer Arabian countries like Saudi,Kuwait etc are American Puppet.But,let me tell you they are not puppet ,they do peaceful business with western countries and does not take grants or donation from US like Pakistan does.
The basic thing behind all is, Pakistan does not have any strong civilian Govt.Who can run the state successfully.Though every time there is a election to form parliamentary Govt and indeed there forms a Govt but actually those are just powerless to Army.Any Govt who truly wants to rule Pakistan for the betterment of Pakistan and its people, fall prey to military coup followed by military rule and then again reelection to sustain west pressure.
Thanks
LOL @ u. ure such a hypocrite. India has also sold itself since its creation so ur in no position to criticize anyone.
“Pakistan is a small country with and it is not the leader of Muslims nor does it have any important history in Islam unlike like Saudi Arabia and Turkey.”
yes its true we havent been leaders of the muslim world but im pretty sure Pakistan was created not even a century ago.even so Pakistan has become one of the most important muslim countries. why do u think the anglo-american-israeli alliance pay so much attention to it. Pakistan is the only real muslim country that can truly threaten them. this is why they and ur precious india are tryin to destabilize and destroy it. besides are u forgetiing the mughal empire. if u dont know what that is then u must have been living under a rock this whole time.
and no the drones killing pakistanis came from the americans….get an education…it would have made sense if u said that the pakistani leadership has accepted the drones but thats not what u said.
@321,
The fact is Pakistan allied itself with the US in the 1950s with the CENTO/SEATO alliance.
Co-operation between USA and Pakistan has continued in some way or the other till this date due to Pakistan’s reliance on US aid.
People are paying attention to Pakistan due to negative reasons of terrorism,proliferation,instability and its potential to de-stabilize the region.
Does any body pay attention to Pakistan due to its trade, mineral resources,foreign relations,diplomacy,culture or its economy?
That is why as soon as soon as the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan the US stopped paying attention to Pakistan and came back only after 9/11.
Mughal Empire??
What do you have to do with the Mughal empire??
The area of present day Pakistan was always periphery and at the side of any empire in India.
That empire had its power center and capital near Delhi,Agra or in the Deccan .all these areas,along with the best achievements of the Mughals lie in India.Is Taj mahal,Agra fort,Red fort,Buland Darwaza, Fatehpur Sikri in Pakistan????
This is part our our history and culture.
There are almost as many Muslims in India as in Pakistan who along with all other Indians to whom that legacy of history has passed .
By drones coming from Pakistan itself, I meant that the killer drones operated by the US were based in Shamsi Air base within Pakistan itself ;not that the drones were Pakistani.
I thought that was obvious!
@ Rajk – Sir, please read my full response. I know it’s long but please be patient. Thanks
I agree with many things you have said. There are two ways of responding, emotionally OR pragmatically and realistically. Allow me to make a humble attempt at the latter. I wish to respond to you, not by giving excuses but just some explanations. I’m making an attempt to reach out to you and explain some of the problems in the hope that you will understand our point of view better. After all, we are neighbours and one neighbour has a right over the other and vice versa.
* ECONOMY – Our economy is not comparable to yours. You are sailing, we are drowning. I don’t offer excuses, but mere explanations as to how things came to this pass. The WoT has ruined our economy and there has been flight of capital too due to corrupt rulers. Foreign investment has dried up. It is ironic that prior to 2007, Pakistan was the fastest growing economy in South Asia – You may delve into the WB/IMF reports and confirm this at your leisure Sir. The foreign investment component was mainly due to the endeavours of Shaukat Aziz and the banking sector but as soon as he left, he took all the investment with him and Pakistan was left high and dry
You can argue that we ought to have addressed this but 2008 saw the arrival of a very corrupt and inept government in the form of PPP and hence the downslide started.
* US AID – You are right. Pakistani rulers, not Pakistani people, have relied on aid and begged US for this in order to sustain their petty rule. It is disgusting, I agree. Why did this situation arise ? It arose due to the stranglehold and influence of feudals on our political system and we couldn’t extricate ourself from these bastards. India, however, carried out extensive land reforms soon after partition and they have produced rich results. Why couldn’t Pakistan do it ? Because Pakistani rulers reached out to the US in order to perpetuate their rule and we saw one dictator after the other. The rule of people (I won’t call it democracy) wasn’t allowed to flourish from grass root level
Finally Pakistan has stood up and we have decided to forego US Aid, something we should have done years ago. New terms of dialogue are being drawn up between Pakistan and America and Pakistan will not be bullied by anyone. For sure, Pakistan is breaking the mould.
* SEATO/CENTO – Our mistake right form the beginning was siding with US who emerged as the most powerful entity after WW2. It would have been far more prudent and wise to extend our hands towards Russia, as India did. An alliance with the US has brought nothing but misery to Pakistan. Musharraf was brought to power through a military coup because the US had to invade Afghanistan – in order to do this they needed a pliant government in Islamabad that took care of their interests before 911 ever took place. Nawaz Sharif, for all his political shortcomings, would never have acceded to American demands the way Musharraf did. Infact, NS may well have defied the US to some extent. Whatever happened during that time, it was a risk too big for the US to take. So what happened ? CIA gives nod to Musharraf to invade Kargil in the Spring of 1999 sensing that the Indians will be caught on the back foot. Pakistan achieves some success. However, in the closing stages of this conflict, the Indians introduce air cover and the whole dynamics of the war change. India has leverage. Musharraf forces NS to go to US and get Clinton to mediate a ceasefire. What did it achieve ? Dead soldiers on both sides with mothers crying for their lost sons. Who would want to see this, no one. Then there was the US invasion of Afghanistan and the WoT – the rest is history.
* TERRORISM – With all due respect, to connote that Pakistan is the centre of terrorism is frankly ignorant. Terrorism exists in many forms and it doesn’t have geographical boundaries. Sir, look at Israel and Mossad and what they do in occupied lands, look at how NATO thinks it has a god given right to invade sovereign countries and unleash bombing campaigns at will, look at the genocide being committed by Indian forces in IOK – the list goes on. At the end what will happen ? We will go round in circles and blame each other over and over. There are groups in Pakistan that supported the Jihad against the Soviets but now they have turned on the State who were it’s benefactors. What creates a terrorist mindset ? Answer : Social injustices. Is what India is doing in Balochistan and our tribal areas short of terrorism ? Let’s get facts straight : India & Pakistan love destabilising each other and they have been playing cat and mouse for donkeys years. The solution to India and Pakistan’s problems lie in the comprehensive resolution of the Kashmir conflict according to the aspirations of the Kashmiri people. Hey, even if it was independent I wouldn’t mind, so long as that is what the Kashmiri people wanted. BUT.. in this lies a conundrum for the Indian Civil and Military establishment : any resolution of the Kashmir issue will weaken the federation and strengthen the hand of those insurgents who are fighting for their rights in many parts of India – these are facts, forget for a moment I’m a Pakistani blogger
However, this will turn into a protracted discussion so I will leave it in it’s brevity, if you will permit.
* NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION – Yes, I agree that Pakistan has a record but remember EVERY country looks after it’s own interests. In politics there are no friends, only bonds of convenience. India developed it’s deterrence solely for the purpose of countering the Chinese threat. It was not Pakistan specific BUT, due to shifting patterns in geo-politics, it could be used in the future to bully Pakistan and attain a ‘hold’ over it. Look at the history of the Indus Valley and look at who we descend from – could Pakistan ever accept being bullied ? Therefore, we developed our own nuclear deterrent. Absolutely nothing wrong with that Sir and it doesn’t even matter how we developed it and where the assistance came from. Now, let’s talk about North Korea, Iran and Libya. I’m not saying for one second that Pakistan did not assist them but tell me, what is wrong with that ? If your neighbour comes to you and asks you for help in order to protect himself from a bully that has a gun and he hasn’t, what would you do ? If you don’t have a gun you will say, ‘Sorry mate, can’t help you there’. However, if you do have a gun or guns, you might say, ‘Yeah okay dude, are you willing to pay me ?’ It’s a very simple analogy Rajk, but do you catch my drift ? Do you understand what I’m saying ? These countries shared a common religion with Pakistan so Pakistan felt obliged to help and I’m sure gained many benefits too. What is wrong with this ? This is the world of politics Rajk and many, many worse things have happened in history. Politics is dirty whether it be in Pakistan, India, Europe or Latin America. There is nothing wrong with harnessing nuclear technology or building a bomb in order to protect oneself against aggression from a bully larger and more powerfulthan you, right ? India had a nuclear plant that was built by Canada and they not only stole the centrifugal technology but also starting enriching uranium to levels needed to manufacture a bomb but NO ONE batted an eyelid. This is fact, not hearsay Sir. Why the double standards around the world if Pakistan, Iran or North Korea want a bomb to protect themselves from bullying by imperialistic foreign powers ? Hey, I’m just telling you how it is and this is the rough world we live in.
* INSTABILITY & POTENTIAL DESTABILISATION OF SOUTH ASIA – Exactly, I agree. Pakistan is not stable right now and there are various reasons for this. 1. We don’t have an aggressive and ‘Pakistan First’ foreign policy, this is all changing now. 2. The Political set up needs to be changed and I see signs of this because more and more people are sick and fed up with the system. They want REAL and LASTING change. Our youth and middle class will bring about this change in political culture. 3. Land reforms will certainly help eradicate the influence of corrupt feudo politics that is a cancer in Pakistan and this will help to fight poverty too. 4. The problem lies within Pakistan so we must set our own house in order first BUT.. many powers are using this opportunity to further destabilise Pakistan – why ? Pakistan lies at the crossroads of Central Asia. On one side you have China, on the other you have the gas rich Central Independent States and then across the Arabia Sea you have the oil rich Gulf and Middle East. Why do you think so many countries are desperate to get a foothold in this region ? They are ALL playing politics in the backyard of Afghanistan and Pakistan ! I have a simple answer : Try and support Pakistan instead of criticising it. Remember this Sir : India’s future and it’s prosperity lies in the stabilisation and economic prosperity of Pakistan. India is in a perfect place to help if it so pleases. The blame game will get us nowhere. In 2009, Musharraf came to India and spoke. By the time he left, he had many new friends and admirers who shared his vision of a prosperous Pakistan alongside India.
* HISTORY & CULTURE – Alhamdo Lillah, the Muslim rulers left much beautiful architecture in Pakistan. Hey, take a look on this side of the border : Badshahi Mosque, the history of Lahore, Thatta, Moenjedaro, Faisal Mosque, the fertile lands of Punjab, the Northern area’s of Pakistan which were a tourist haven until we joined the WoT. Where was the ‘Great’ Alexander’s advance stopped ? Sir, when Pakistan came into existence, India inherited MORE land, MORE industry, MUCH more in the way of munitions, tanks, planes and airbases, factories and MANY more soldiers for it’s army. We suffered injustices by the British during partition but we didn’t complain. We built our nation from scratch but Sir you had a head start. Did we complain ? No.
Sir, has your country ever faced the floods we have faced ? TWICE in twenty years ! Look at the resilience of our nation, we never asked for aid but we got by with what we had when just less than 20% of our country was flooded. Every child and mature person helped those in need. Our Army won the hearts and minds of it’s people in the way it took over responsibility to care for the victims – which army in the world is fighting a WoT (not just for Pakistan but for the world), controlling insurgency AND taking control of the floods ? Find me an example.
Conclusion :
Sir, me and you can sit here ALL day and pick bones in India and Pakistan. I won’t come here and say X, Y and Z is wrong with India and how India is destabilising Pakistan under the umbrella of the US – No Sir, that’s not my job. Yes, Pakistan has it’s faults and has made some strategic blunders in the past but I am a realist and incidentally, I’m also a dreamer. I believe Pakistan’s fortunes will change as soon as it opts out of the WoT. I believe we have negotiated the worst possible times and next year will see a different Pakistan that will rebuild it’s war torn economy, rely less on international aid and exploit it’s massive growth potential through it’s OWN natural resources – just wait and watch
I have many great Indian friends and they are concerned for Pakistan too. They understand in some way or another that India’s economic ascent depends very heavily on the stability of Pakistan because everyone fears the extremist mindset, including Pakistanis. These people depict the worst of humanity in many of their cults and beliefs. Yes there are Indians too that are happy with Pakistan imploding but my blog does not concern them. The reason I write to you is because I see concern and constructive criticism in your write up – maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m right but I prefer to see the good in an individual and not think about the negative.
Mr Rajk, Pakistan is a wonderful country with the most expansive natural resources found anywhere in Asia – Sir, this is no lie or patriotism, reports prove this. So what is the problem with Pakistan ? Simple : weak leadership. Mark my words Sir, the day we have an honest and upright leadership, Pakistan will prosper and when that happens no one will be able to stop the economic rise of Pakistan and this will benefit India too. Pakistan and India may disagree on many things but remember, the beauty and challenge lies in finding common ground between us and I’m very confident that there are many common denominators between BOTH nations, Inshallah
All the best, my Brother.
@Ali Alamzeb,
If Pakistan gave its economy and development first priority,rather than to risky strategic games and emotional issue it would be a much better place.
@ Rajk
“If Pakistan gave its economy and development first priority,rather than to risky strategic games and emotional issue it would be a much better place.”
First part, absolutely correct. Second part, Pakistani’s can be emotional, true again. Third part, we don’t play risky strategic games, no Sir. Everyone has a steak in a peaceful Afghanistan because many will want to invest heavily once foreign troops are cut down and sent home. India is already there, Pakistan was always there. Let’s hope Afghanistan does not become a battleground for our countries, Afghanistan deserves much better for what it has endured over the last 50 years.
Inshallah, Pakistan will be a welfare state and will try to put it’s economy in the ascendency by exploiting the massive natural resources. Mark my words,
* In 2012 we will lay the foundations for a NEW Pakistan and you will start to see glimpses of where Pakistan is going
* In 2013 WoT theatre will have shifted from South Asia to Africa and the Middle East.
* Pakistan and India will enhance trade between each other and we will find a diplomatic solution to Kashmir which is what we all want.
* China will invest very heavily in Pakistan’s infrastructure, especially Balochistan, in billions and billions. Gwadar will create many many jobs and Balochistan will prove to be the lifeline of Pakistan’s economy.
* Karachi will become Pakistan’s financial hub again.
* Money will pour into Pakistan from around the world in terms of direct foreign investment and trade.
Inshallah. This is the idea
I will stop here. Just keep watching. Any good at mathematics ? A prosperous Pakistan = A prosperous India
Bravo!!!
Am an Indian and am proud of it…
This is what every citizen wants from both the country.
@ Ali,
Brother, frankly you are too good to waste your time trying to offer reasoning to these mindless Brahmins – if an idiot tries to argue that Pakistan has nothing to do with the Mughals, he might as well go ahead and deny the Holocaust as well.
These Hindustanis are high on Bollywood and BJP indoctrination – there’s nothing you or I can do to chellenge that…all we can do is have a little fun slapping them around when they get a little too cocky, just as they did in ‘65.
I hope you’re well brother – check your email!
A
My compliments for a well balanced article. Pakistan desperately needs more personalities like you to articulate a policy of peace and prosperity.
Economic development and regional peace are possible, but only after the country sums up the courage to come clean with her citizens. In this age when information moves at the speed of light, even the educated Pakistanis continue to subscribe to the false notion of their victories in every war against India, or the circumstances that led to the division of Pakistan. Assault on Kashmir, also known as Kabayli Raid, when Kashmir was still under the Rule of a Hindu Maharaj needs to be acknowledged.
Volumes could be written about how Pakistan can be changed for the better. The three most pressing needs for now seem to be:
1. Not letting the fragile democracy disappear.
2. Reinforcing religious tolerance.
3. Taking stern steps to stop exporting terrorism and destabilizing countries.
Thanks.
“The fact is Pakistan allied itself with the US in the 1950s with the CENTO/SEATO alliance.
Co-operation between USA and Pakistan has continued in some way or the other till this date due to Pakistan’s reliance on US aid.”
I never denied that we allied ourselves to the US. i was saying that ure a hypocrite b/c ure bashing us for being tools while u have done the same thing.
“People are paying attention to Pakistan due to negative reasons of terrorism,proliferation,instability and its potential to de-stabilize the region.”
yes they are paying attention to us for these reasons. but this wasnt caused by us. it was caused by cia-raw-mossad trying to destabilize us. and they will continue to do this and bash us until we are no longer a threat to the zionist quest for total world domination.
“Mughal Empire??
What do you have to do with the Mughal empire??
The area of present day Pakistan was always periphery and at the side of any empire in India.
That empire had its power center and capital near Delhi,Agra or in the Deccan .all these areas,along with the best achievements of the Mughals lie in India.Is Taj mahal,Agra fort,Red fort,Buland Darwaza, Fatehpur Sikri in Pakistan????
This is part our our history and culture.”
i doubt that pakistan was just “on the periphery”. it was part of india before so it couldnt be just “on the side”. the mughals were muslims. their achievements lie with the muslims. how can u say its not part of our history or culture? it is our history and culture as much as urs.
“There are almost as many Muslims in India as in Pakistan who along with all other Indians to whom that legacy of history has passed .”
the legacy has passed to all the muslims not just those in india. or r u saying that the pakistani ancestors were some other race?
“By drones coming from Pakistan itself, I meant that the killer drones operated by the US were based in Shamsi Air base within Pakistan itself ;not that the drones were Pakistani.”
yes i cant disagree with u on that. and no it wasnt rlly obvious to me at the time i will apologize on that. although i can see why it should have been.
@321,
India has had close relations with the old USSR, and also relations with the west in general.Indo-US relation were not over friendly,but they were not overtly hostile also.
After the break up of the USSR,India developed more closer relations with the USA,West,Israel.
Even then our relation with Russia and Eat continue.
The difference is,no matter what the relations with USSR,Russia or USA or any other, we have NEVER allowed any foreign army to operate or establish a base in India.
Indian foreign policy has always been lead by Indian civil political leadership.
We also have never entered into any military alliance with any foreign power or fought in any foreign war except under UN peace -keeping operations.
Even today all military interaction is for training and co-ordination only.
Recently the Australian PM called on India to form a trilateral security with them and the USA, India refused.
India will of-course use diplomacy to influence relations with Pakistan,but at no time has it entered into any formal alliance of a military nature or allow foreign bases.
On Mughal History,that comment is more at the many on this site who look on Muslims and Islamic culture as the sole preserve of Pakistan and project as if Islam and Muslims have no place in India.
There are lot of Pakistanis who claim Pakistanis are racially different from Indians and that Pakistanis are middle eastern in origin and Indians are south Asians.
Though where that place the Bangladeshis,who were East Pakistan is never made clear.
There are no drones operational with Pakistani forces as of now with killer capabilities of the predator.All such drone killing are by US drones which till recently operated from bases within Pakistan.
LOL “dignity, honor, responsibility” please don’t make us laugh. If u truly think that it just shows u how deluded and misguided u are. Do urself a favor and get an education
Do you even know the meanings of “dignity, honour and responsiblity”?
You comment and reference is an epic example of Temple Indoctrination of Indian public. Please continue enjoying Bollywood media and don’t dare to fool others because the world knows your actual worthlessness and low status.
@Umer… Which world knows our actual worthlessness and low status, r u talking abt third world. Follow various i’national surveys & u will realise that pak is not only worthlessness but useless as well.
Various international surveys?
Global Poverty Index:
% population living on less than $1.25 a day:
Hindustan – 37 Pakistan – 22.6
% population living on less than $2 a day:
Hindustan – 75.6 Pakistan – 60.3
So…not only are you stupid, you’re also poor. Good luck with that.
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@ A
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Ha ha ha…..any idiot can make that…India lead the word in the following:
Homelessness, Prostitution, HIV & AIDS, abortion, corruptions, terrorism, crime, racism, class clash, murder of little or unborn girls…just because they are girls…and much much more! Ok, no one is perfect, and neither are the Pakistanis…but we see our weakness and accept that we are far from perfect…
…interesting…..and given that this was 40 years ago, what precisely should Afghans make of the ongoing Pakistani war on Afghanistan via proxy, ever since the early 1970’s that preceded the Soviet invasion? The Bengalis at least are an entirely different people in contrast to the dominant Punjabis of the mainland, with little resemblance by way of culture. I once asked a Bangladeshi who was studying for his Doctorate as to why they sought their independance from Pakistan and he was visibly offended by my question. Simply put, Islam is not a culture but an avenue of shared faith that manifests itself in different forms in all Muslim nations under the weight of the predominant cultures therein. Nations as expressions of common identities are important and hence acknowledged in the noble Quran as having been created with the blessing of Allah, if only that we know ourselves.
That this article acknowledges what threr est of the world already know, in that lies are being told in Pakistani schools, then it’s a good start, given that all Muslims are obligated to stand by all that is truthful. However, don’t just look through the cracks but open the door to truth entirely. You can start by teaching your children about how Pakistan came into being through the machinations of your former Bristish masters as a reward to their plaint Peons who then unqualifyingly inherited lands taken from other peoples, namely Afghans. You may give yourselves a license to hate Indians for having helped a people carve out their own nation as a result of living hundreds of miles away and with little common identity with you, but what of the Afghans who’ve lost a portion of their land and people to the servants of their former enemy? What are we to make of the brutal, barely literate murderous proxies of yours that have been helping you by default to invade the rest of our country? Do we too have the right to hate you back and work with all your enemies to Balkanize your synthetic state? You’re damned right we do!
u should read the qur’an if you’re muslim and learn more about islam. u say that u have a right as a muslim to work with kaffirs against ur fellow muslims most of whom had nothing to do with the creation of pakistan. do u know what this makes u ? a kaffir urself. because u are working to kill fellow muslims. and these muslims arent just the elites. theyre just normal ppl. Islam trumps ur national identity no matter what. get this through ur head. no wonder our society in muslim worlds has degenerated so much. its b/c of ppl with silly ideaologies like urs
India is not a foreign country. Pakistan was not exsisting before 1947. Whole of Pakistan is a part of India.No question of aggression.Pakistani muslims were driven out from Indian territory of east Bengal.Ab west pakistan ki bari hai.
@ gotya… Ab Pakistan ki bari nahi hai…. endia will be broken into 4 pieces now… It’s now Pakistan’s turn to break endia or capture again (same as did before few hundard years ago). u’ll see this will happen.
@Nad.. Day dreaming is good for health and yes in ur dream u can break india into 40 pieces rather than 4 idiot.
When Gen Ayuub khan attacked India in 1965 without any provocation with a will to annex Kashmir, where was author ? Burden of 10 million of Hindu refugees forced India to deal Pakistan firmly. It used RAW and Tibetann force to operate within Chittagong Hill Tract region to ellimonate Pakistani border out posts in septmember 1971.Gurakha regiments of India also shown the test of their famous Khukri to FF in Atgram battle and Punjabis shown their guts in battle of Garibpur in east Pakistan. Attack on Indian Rajsthan sector by Pakistan was a total Fisco and Indian only four Indian warplanes destroyed 44 of Pakistani chinese supplied T-59 tanks near Longawala.
@ gotya, Technically, Pakistan never attacked on endia in 1965. Pakistani commondos entered into Kashmir. Kashmir’s line-of-control till now is NOT an international border (same as israel and Palestine do not have international border… that’s why israel enters into Palestinian area and creates housing colony, and that’s why israel is resisting Palestinians’ right to become an independent country… it will create an international border and israel invasion will be taken as attack on Palestine). Same concept applies in 1965 war. So, in response, endia crossed international border and entered into Pakistan. So, technically endia attacked Pakistan. Dude, make clear ur concepts. u guys come here to show ur entelligences but now nothing from roots.
@Nad,
So accordingly India too can attack POK as the LOC is not the border??
Israeli -Palestine situation is very different as Israel maintains full control on the occupied areas very unlike the India -Pak situation on Kashmir,where sides maintain control on the respective areas with them.
Whether the border is de-jure or de-facto,the fact is there was a cease fire agreement under the UN in 1948 between India and Pakistan on the issue of Kashmir.Thus any,breach of that cease-fire,which obviously Pakistan did by sending armed commandos into Kashmir would be a breach of such cease fire and India was well entitled to consider it an act of war against India.
You argument is absolutely fallacious and quite amusing in fact!
@ Rajk… yes, if endia wants to enter Pakistan from non-international boundary (i.e Kashmir LOC)… sure enter into Pakistan. And please don’t give false justifications.
@ Nad,
Brother I completely agree. If you read up on the sequence of events in early 2002, you will learn how this fearsome fighting force of the Hindustani ‘army’ managed to blow up over 800 of its own ’soldiers’ just in the process of mobilising along the Pakistan border. All Islamabad has to do is provoke its neighbour enough for another mobilisation, and that’s another 800 monkeys already done away with without firing a single shot.
If Hindustan declares war tomorrow, I would want to be the first one to reach the border – not to fight, just to watch the fireworks as bits of Brahmins sail through the sky.
LOL
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Where have you been chilling ????????
@Nad,
LOL,why should we want to go across the LOC.
We have rivers and water resources in our Kashmir that control water flow into Pakistan.
We have Sri-Nagar,the Dal Lake,the valley with us.For what do we require to go across?
And BTW have you have not answered whether Pakistan violated the UN mandated ceasefire in 1948 or not by sending armed infiltrators or not.
And I also see someone talking of a border deployment in 2002 with you!!!!!!
It would be interesting to note that cease fire agreement on the LOC, the Bus diplomacy,the concessions given by Pakistan on Kashmir,peace talks etc etc all came after 2002.
India gave up nothing on Kashmir while, Pakistan lost it hand in Kashmir.No wonder we have had a ever quieter Kashmir since 2002.
The situation on your side is the opposite,with troubles only increasing in the last decade.
So do analyse what Pakistan gave up by just the Indian Army standing on its borders and saying boo!!
Technically, are you stupid or what? When Pakistani commandos entered Kashmir, what did that constitute? Wasn’t that an act of war?
Kashmir was and is still disputed territory, you retard.
Just because your effeminate ‘army’ couldn’t defeat us in Akhnoor, you violated international protocol and breached the official border. THAT is an act of war, and unfortunately you paid the price for it bitterly.
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A, we are all concerned about you. Don’t forget to take your daily medication. Also, please promise that you will stop reading the made-up history books you have been reading. You should have known, they are all doctored to convince the general public on how Pakistan military achieved victory, time and again, over their eternal enemy, India. A ploy to hold the country hostage. Instead, do some independent research. I can’t promise you will feel better, but you will certainly be better informed.
@hello, Muh me lelo
failing economy terror sponsor v/s worlds 10th largest economy and secular nation!!!!
no comparisons of apples and oranges
You idiot it was Operation Chengiz Khan that started the war and a cross border voliation. Look at this outrageous name given to an operation, no one needs rocket science to figure out who started this operation.
I think writer was not borne before 1971 war. He does not know any thing about operation searchlight by Tikkakhan in Dacca on 25 March 1971.He does not even know 979 east bengal pakistani armymen were killed in a cold blood in Commilla cantonment on 27 of March by brave west pakistanis.There were no Muktibahini on 1 march 1971.truly, there was no civil war in east pakistan at all. only there was a ethnic cleansing of Hindus only purged out of east bengal by hook and crook. Pakistanis murdered hindus and torched their homes and temples like Mughals did in year 1600. India have given 440 volts shock to pakistanis by cutting their left hand. Pakistan today is only trunketed in terms of Jinnah.
no mukti-bahini? no civil war? ethnic cleansing of hindus? u have seriously lost ur mind. you’re such an ignorant person. Mukti-bahinis did exist. There was a civil war (which started fom india exploiting tension inside Pakistan during that time) And there was no ethnic cleansing of hindus. go back and crawl under ur rock….u havent even given any proof to back up ur claims. why are hindus always so ungrateful to the muslims? why do they always to target us and try to kill us? i will never understand. is it jealousy or something else? we made india great. we helped u become respectable ppl. india and hindus wouldnt even be in the history books if we hadnt turned it from some backward place to a great empire.
India was made great by Prithviraj Chauhan, King Ashoka and King Poras who fought with Alecxander great. You become slave by Arabian aggressor Mohd Bin Kasim. On the contrarary, Hindu King Dahir and his sons fought till last breathe muslim arabi aggressor Kasim who won ultimately by deceipt. Moghals only looted India and ruled Only by the force of swords. All monuments of Moghuls are originally built by Rajputs of India including Taj Mahal. Go and read the acounts of Major Aga H Amin of pakistani army who gave details with proof how many Hindus were killed by Pakistani army in and around Dacca from April to June 1971.
@ dhondu… if locals became slave for Mohammad Bin Kasim,… then Muslims also rules hindustan for 1000 years. This is a bitter truth for every endian.
That is a bad luck for India. After generous king Prithviraj Chauhan, there was nobody to defend Delhi.Vaccum was filled by Alloudin Khilji and Kutubbudin Ibak, Ibrahim Lodhi and so on.To some extent, Rajputs and Maratha countered muslim empire. Since all muslims sardars belonged to other than India region,they controlled like Britishers controlled India.There was no unity among local kings to fight unitedly with muslim aggressors, India became slave. Okey. That is all history.
Funny how you aren’t interested in the independent accounts over six decades of Muslims being exterminated from every corner of your filthy country. Where’s your sense of justice for them?
These kinds of articles are always good pesticides – they bring the Hindustani cockroaches out of the cracks and allow for us to squash them. Then again, there’s always the possibility that all the Hindustanis posting messages are in fact just one angry little Brahmin, sipping cow urine and scratching his unwashed body while posting replies to his own messages under multiple names…
…guys, you cannot blame anybody for the failure of Hindustan to contribute anything meaningful to the world. Your ancestors were slaves, and their ancestors were slaves…so on and so forth. The greatest forces for virtue in South Asia were Buddhism, which was hated by Brahmins, and then Islam, which brought stronger, tougher, physically superior fighters to the subcontinent. Furthermore, with the spiritual impetus of the Sufi movement – the fabric of Pakistan’s very identity – the downtrodden Dalits converted in droves, thereby reinforcing Islam’s presence in the region. Since the time of the Mughals, the ancestors of Pakistan have given Hindustan the closest thing it has to a heritage: the Taj Mahal, the Red Fort, the city’s infrastructures, these were all put together by the Muslim ruling class. Since independence, what has that part of the world offered to mankind? AIDS, malnutrition and 3rd-rate call centres. Statistically, Hindustan has the highest proportion of the world’s impoverished; 64 years after independence, and you guys are still a headache for the rest of the world.
As for 1971, feel free to celebrate it all you want – Bangladesh went its own way, as it was destined to do all along due to geography. Today most Pakistanis wish the Bengalis the very best, and the pain of the past is dying away. Hindustan’s only contribution was to carry out an illegal invasion, assist in the massacre of tens of thousands of Muslims (no surprise there), and oversee the ’surrender’ of 90,000 West Pakistanis – most of whom were simple civil servants. That was your big victory; congratulations. Compare that to 1965, when your Brahmin fighter pilots were blown to smithereens by an air force ONE FIFTH your size, or when your ground forces, filled with the same sexually deviant animals who routinely rape and abuse the innocents of Kashmir, were pushed back at the Lahore and Sialkot sectors. Actually tell you what – compare it to 1947, when our founding fathers smashed your fake country to pieces forever! LOL…no wonder you guys are so desparately looking for some sort of equivalent…man that’s gotta still hurt…
321 – bro you’ve posted some awesome replies, keep up the good work. I can guarantee that these Hindustanis will get the message if it’s delivered forcefully enough; historically, the only language they have ever been known to understand is the back of the hand.
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@ The Architect
Why are you wearing this bogus name ?It is a common sense that British liberated both India and Pakistan at the same time.If it were in hands of only India, Pakistan never been created. TB report of M A Jinah was deliberately hidden by his doctor. If this news were leaked earlier, then congress party leaders would delayed the acceptance of Pakistan. After the death of MAJ, Pakistan would never have been created. It was Suhrawardy,Bengali muslim league chief who kept pressure on Nehru by staging famous Calcutta riots of 1946 August by declaring holiday for muslims.Know the history first and then comment properly, not abusing anybody.I am your father’s age. Understand ?
@ gandu
LOL…so from the anonymous safety of the internet you have the nerve to mention my father – knowing full well that if you were to try that face-to-face with a Pakistani, he would smack the paan clean out of your mouth. Congratulations, how brave of you.
Let me clear this up for you, you malnourished fool – Pakistan was created against the wishes of BOTH the British and the Hindu-dominated Congress. Furthermore, had it been only Jinnah’s impetus, then surely the newly-formed country would have been re-absorbed back into Hindustan before the end of 1948 – just as Ghandi had predicted. Unfortunately for you, by then we had already denied you almost half of Kashmir, and the grief of those refugees who had seen their loved ones butchered by Hindu and Sikh gangs along the partition border had taken root within our very soil.
If the Muslims of the Raj had been more inclined towards a united country before Partition, why didn’t they follow the Congress-owned rent boy Maulana Azad? He appealed relentlessly on behalf of his Brahmin masters to win the Muslims electorate, but with little success. The campaign for Pakistan began back in March 1940 – it was crystal clear what Quaid-e-Azam demanded, and that was what made him so popular among the non-Hindu (or rather non-Brahmin) minorities.
It’s sad that you had to learn your lesson in such a harsh way back in 1947, and it’s even sadder that you have still not absorbed the key sociological implications of it yet – even to this day, reports emerge regularly about minority discrimination across Hindustan, not to mention the brutal treatment of the Dalits. No wonder they also regard Quaid-e-Azam as a hero.
Lastly, consider this – from what you’ve told us about yourself, you’re a middle-aged man who spends his spare time posting hate messages on a Pakistani website under multiple accounts. Now think about that and ask yourself this: who here is the real loser?
LOL
Wishing all the Pakistanis a happy and blessed Jinnah Day today…
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@ Archi
Lollllllllllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzz
Boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy !!!! Did you just give me a hell of a laugh or what ??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bless you pravva !!
“India was made great by Prithviraj Chauhan, King Ashoka and King Poras who fought with Alecxander great. ”
lol if thats so then why does no one remember ur Prithviraj Chauhan, King Ashoka and King Poras? the world remembers alexander but not these othets u mentioned.
“You become slave by Arabian aggressor Mohd Bin Kasim.
lol slave? wat do u mean by that? r u talking about converting to islam? the ppl at the time converted to islam of their own free will. there is no compulsion in religion
this is from wikipedia:
“Religion
No mass conversions were attempted and the destruction of temples such as the Sun Temple at Multan was forbidden.[19] Lane-Poole writes that, ” as a rule Muslim government was at once tolerant and economic”.[20]
A small minority who converted to Islam were granted exemption from Jizya in lieu fo paying the Muslim mandated Zakat.[13] Hindus and Buddhists were given the status of Dhimmi (protected people).[4]
An eccelastical office, “sadru-I-Islam al affal”, was created to oversee the secular governors.[13] While some proslytization occurred, the social dynamics of Sind were no different from other regions newly conquered by Muslim forces such as Egypt, where conversion to Islam was slow and took centuries.[13]”
“On the contrarary, Hindu King Dahir and his sons fought till last breathe muslim arabi aggressor Kasim who won ultimately by deceipt.”
i dont doubt ur king fought till the last breath but lost by deceipt? lol give me a break. this is from wikipedia again:
Reasons for success
Muhammad bin Qasim’s success has been partly ascribed to Dahir being an unpopular Hindu king ruling over a Buddhist majority who saw Chach of Alor and his kin as usurpers of the Rai Dynasty.[4] This is attributed to having resulted in support being provided by Buddhists and inclusion of rebel soldiers serving as valuable infantry in his cavalry-heavy force from the Jat and Meds.[11] Brahman, Buddhist, Greek, and Arab testimony however can be found that attests towards amicable relations between the adherents of the two religions up to the 7th century.[12]
Along with this were:
1.Superior military equipment; such as siege engines and the Mongol bow.[4]
2.Troop discipline and leadership.[4]
3.The concept of Jihad as a morale booster.[4]
4.Religion; the widespread belief in the prophecy of Muslim success.[4][12]
5.The Samanis being persuaded to submit and not take up arms because the majority of the population was Buddhist who were dissatisfied with their rulers, who were Hindu.[12]
6.The laboring under disabilities of the Lohana Jats.[12]
7.Defections from among Dahirs chiefs and nobles.[12]
“Moghals only looted India and ruled Only by the force of swords. All monuments of Moghuls are originally built by Rajputs of India including Taj Mahal. ”
first of all they never “looted india”. india wouldnt have been rich or great if it wasnt for the mughals. and no…they didnt rule by the sword. one again this is from wikipedia:
The “classic period” of the empire started in 1556 with the accession of Jalaluddin Mohammad Akbar, better known as Akbar the Great. Under the rule of Akbar the Great, India enjoyed much cultural and economic progress as well as religious harmony. The Mughals also forged a strategic alliance with several Hindu Rajput kingdoms. Some Rajput kingdoms continued to pose a significant threat to Mughal dominance of northwestern India, but they were subdued by the third Mughal Emperor Akbar
as u can see there was harmony in the empire. only those that were attacking the mughals were dealt with. reread the part where it says religious harmony over and over again. and i cant believe that u think that the taj mahal and other places the mughals built were “originally” built by rajputs. just to clear it up they weren’t. why dont u educate urself on this.
“Go and read the acounts of Major Aga H Amin of pakistani army who gave details with proof how many Hindus were killed by Pakistani army in and around Dacca from April to June 1971.”
i dont know where to find these. why dont u give me a link? and as for killing of hindus, i dont endorse it. the army knew that india was behind this so they prob thought this as revenge. sadly hindus werent the only ones targeted in case u didnt realize. the atrocities that were committed were horrible yes, but india was behind the whole event trying to destabilize pakistan. so dont only blame pakistan blame india as well. anyhow i think u forget ur own attrocities. dont u remember the gujarat conspiracy against muslims? that kinda backfired didnt it b/c the muslims attacked back? wat about when the partition took place and u started persecuting the muslims. no wonder some of the muslims fought back. its was one of the main reasons why alot didnt leave india. did u know that my grandmother almost got killed by one of u. did u know that she saw her friend jump into a ditch, where the were already many other corpses of women who had jumped, b/c she didnt want to get caught by u ppl? before criticizing muslims look at ur own actions.
im still wondering why hindus hate the muslims so much. is b/c of nationalism and the fact that now india is ruled by hindus that u want to erase the past? want ppl to forget that muslims used to rule india for hundreds of years and during that time there was for the most part harmony and progress. is it jealousy. in any case india should stop trying to destabilze and destroy pakistan.
Google pakistan defence journal and search for Brigadier A H Amin. Valuable information by pakistani officers is given. Till 1970, nobody thought Bangladesh will be born.Problem was created by Gen Yahya and Z A Bhutto that resulted in 10 millions refugee influx into India.There was an economy problem with majority of hindu refugees . At Chuknagar, 5000 hindus were masscared by Pakistani army from Jessore cantonment. Every thing is available on Google if you wish to know. Thanks for reply. 321
LOL…321 broke down your entire argument and all you were left with was your Defence Journal link. Before ordering him or anyone else to do your research for you, why don’t you at least have the shame to admit you were completely wrong on everything else you stated?
Oh – and FYI, Defence Journal also has multiple eyewitness testimonies about the ease with which Hindustani forces were overpowered in 1965…funny how you never seem interested in examining those…
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@321
At least you should have given yourself a nickname.Note the link for your information. On Google—- 1) Indopakmilitaryhistory.blogspot.com
2) Reports of retired army pakistani generals on 1971 war
India shall again attack Pakistan after India succeeds at orchestrating anther 26/11 like incident in India.You are a bunch of fools who do not have the knowledge of anything including when money transfers to some place after it gets transferred.But you may be able to design ultra modern weapons with out external help unlike India.
What an excellent photo of Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw of India. Thanks.General of Generals.Sometimes war is a solution to a cancerous problem.India has solved Pakistan,s problem ( created by Yahya and Bhutto) in 1971.Also its own problem on its eastern border.Now it does not mater how high Pakistan jumps and creates only noise on west frontier. Now today, US is squeezing Pakistan by throat and Pakistan is simply trembling.
to hindo chankia liars. you are habitual liars….
Why Mujib Ur Rehman was killed by Bengali patriots on August 14th, 1975
This article has been written by Bangaldeshi patriot Barrister MBI Munshi who lives in Dhaka Bangladesh. Dr. Munshi has written a seminal book on South Asia called “The India Doctrine”. Barrister Munshi is very active on India, Pakistani and Bangladeshi defense forums. He was kind enough to send me his book to review and has promised to use some of our articles in the next edition of his book. Dr. Munshi has a keen sense of history and brings out the forgotten history of 1971 lost in Bollywoods popcorn culture. The new generation of South Asians do not remember the dark times of 1975 when a dark cloud engulfed Bangladesh.
On why Sheikh Mujibur Rahman will not be mourned – From Awami League to BAKSAL
16th December 1971, a new country was born – Bangladesh. As a newborn country, Bangladesh had lots of hopes and aspirations. It was time for the “Father of the Nation” to materialize the dream that he had presented to the people. The liberation war had broken all the class barriers in the society.
Bangladesh’s vulnerabilities: Still overcoming Plassey
Partition of Bengal’s implications for Bangladesh & Pakistan then and now
The Poloshi conspiracy: Jun 23rd 1757- A day of Infamy for the Subcontinent
A great opportunity was created to forge a national unity leaving aside the age-old class differentiations. The people expected that the leaders would rise above the group and party interest and would unite the people to harness their patriotism and productivities to rebuild the war torn country to fulfill the dream of a ‘Golden Bengal’. 100 millions of Bangladeshis would find their rightful place in the world community with dignity and honour.
After failing to take over Bangladesh on Dec 16th 1971, India unleashed the Rakhi Bahni on the Bangladeshis. It then tried to impose a Treaty of Friendship which would have converted into an Indian province. On August 14th 1975 Bangladeshi patriots killed the
Indian agent
Shaikh Mujib and liberated Bangladesh from the Indian grip. Today India is forcing a transit policy on defenseless Bangladesh that is fighting for her existence. The Transit facilites that Bharat is asking would clog existing Balgladeshi roads and pose a security threat to Bangladesh. It would also exacerbate the situation in Northeast “India” where the sevean Assamese states want freedom from Delhi. The Transit agreement poses a mortal threat to Bangladesh
Historical heritage, distinct self identity, the vision of the able leadership, right direction, patriotism, sacrifices, hard work and above all united efforts of the nation could achieve cherished goal step by step with the passage of time. Creation of a progressive, happy and prosperous Bangladesh and reaching its fruits at the doorstep of every citizen would have matched with the spirit of the liberation war. The independence would have then become meaningful. But the people had already become apprehensive about the sincerity of the leadership.
Mujib Ur Rehman March 1971: Soon after stepping on the soil of the independent country Awami League came out with the ambiguous slogan of “Mujibbad”. After three and half years when “Mujibbad” was proven to be an empty slogan Sheikh Mujibur Rahman like any other power hungry dictator promulgated 4th amendment and took all powers in his own hand by forming one party autocratic regime of BKSAL. This unprecedented constitutional coup de’ tat was called his ‘
Second Revolution
’. As he usurped absolute power apparently things for a while looked calm on the surface but beneath that uneasy calm political and social conditions were fast deteriorating.
Our political leaders had always done much sweet-talking than actual deeds. Promises had been even greater. People have heard such for ages and got used to such empty promises. Who ever had gone to power had always failed the people. They had oppressed the people paying no heed to their demands. The isolation of the leaders from the people and their selfish interest were the main reasons for such betrayals.
Our leaders mostly are alien in their own societies. That is why people are apathetic toward them. Once in power they do everything to meet their own vested interest and later justify their deeds with power and position. The people remain enslaved in the merry go round of betrayal and deception. The politicians always placed their self-interest above the interest of the nation. Even at times the country and the people became sacrificial goats to meet their greed and lust.
Bangladesh 14th August 1975: Bengali patirots killed Shaikh Mujib who was seen as an Indian agent and a sell out to Delhi. Bangaldeshis revolted against the Indian imposed “Rakhi Bahni” (run by a sitting Indian General) and rose against the so called “Treaty of Freindhsip” whose aim was to absorb Bengal into India. Shaikh Mujib’s body lay in the streets of days. It was Awami League of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman that mortgaged the national independence and state sovereignty signing the 25 years long-term unequal treaty with India. By creating Rakkhi Bahini, Lal Bahini, Sheccha Shebok Bahini and other private Bahinis AWAMI-BKSALISTS unleashed an unbearable reign of terror killing 40000 nationalists and patriotic people with out any trial.
Soon after stepping on the soil of the independent country Awami League came out with the ambiguous slogan of “Mujibbad”. After three and half years when “Mujibbad” was proven to be an empty slogan Sheikh Mujibur Rahman like any other power hungry dictator promulgated 4th amendment and took all powers in his own hand by forming one party autocratic regime of BKSAL. This unprecedented constitutional coup de’ tat was called his ‘Second Revolution’. As he usurped absolute power apparently things for a while looked calm on the surface but beneath that uneasy calm political and social conditions were fast deteriorating.
The main reason for such deterioration was the presumption of the rulers that by dishing out favours and benefits rule can be perpetuated forever. They depended on this belief because of their lake of understanding of the complexities of the newly independent country. It’s problems and solutions were beyond their perception. They lacked any ideology, conviction, experience and vision. Sheikh Mujibur Rahman like other third world dictators considered his own ideas and thoughts to be the ultimate. He never cared to take any advice or suggestion from any one, other than his ‘kitchen cabinet’ comprised of his family members. His all knowing attitudes were to a great extend responsible for his administrative failure.
He also did not have a clear idea about the difference between party and the state. This became clear even in 1956-57 when he deferred with the then Chief Minister Mr. Ataur Rahman Khan. Mr. Khan wanted to keep the administration totally neutral. He knew that if the administration were brought under the party control then it would be difficult to run the administration efficiently. But Sheikh Mujib refuted his contention and said, “The administration has to accept party domination. Not only that administration will just help and assist the party to execute its policies, but the administration will also be helping in increasing its influence among the people”. Mr. Ataur Rahman Khan had to surrender to Sheikh Mujib as he was then considered very powerful in the party. Thus during this time Sheikh Mujibur Rahman as the Minister of Commerce and Industries indulged in rampant corruption, nepotism and misuse of power. He used his power in giving out permits, licenses, bank loans, and sanction to establish industries to people who were loyal to him and his cronies.
Mujib Ur Rehman to be tried. Bangladesh: The general Secretaries nominated were most trusted confidants of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. The members of the central committees of these organizations consisted of members taken from CPB, NAP Muzaffar and Jatiyo league of Ataur Rahman Khan.
After taking over the reign of Bangladesh he started ruling the country in the same old style. Some were given money, some undue promotions, appointments as the directors of the abandoned business concerns and industries, license permits, dealerships etc. to buy support and personal loyalty. This is how only within two and half years a total anarchy was created in the economic sector.
Shaikh Mujib Ur Rahman and the CIA seen here in the 60s with the CIA: He had worked closely with the CIA and RAW for self agrandisement as the leader of a new nation.: It was not only his party people who got involved in rampant corruption. His immediate family members were also involved. Gazi Golam Mustfa who was a close confidant of Sheik’s family became famous as ‘Kamble Chor’ in the country for his open misappropriation of relief goods being the Chairman of the Red Cross. The donors and the international relief agencies also came to know about his malpractices.
Many of his confidants were also involved in smuggling in collaboration with the Marwaris. Thus under the patronization of Awami rule a new class of ‘novo’ rich grew like mushroom. They accumulated from national resources but did not reinvest into the economic cycle. Most of their wealth was spent in non-productive sectors or transferred abroad. With these people Sheikh Mujibur Rahman wanted to establish ‘GOLDEN BENGAL’ in the country. It was really very hard to understand what he was up to? Was it his ignorance or cunning mechanization? Was it appropriate that he should place his party’s interest over the national interest? Did the nation expect that from him?
It was not only his party people who got involved in rampant corruption. His immediate family members were also involved. Gazi Golam Mustfa who was a close confidant of Sheik’s family became famous as ‘Kamble Chor’ in the country for his open misappropriation of relief goods being the Chairman of the Red Cross. The donors and the international relief agencies also came to know about his malpractices.
International press and media became very vocal against this notorious thief. His only brother Sheikh Naser not only garbed the abandoned properties and businesses in Khulna his hometown, but also became one of the ringleaders of the smuggling activities. All his nephews Sheikh Moni, Abul Hasnat, Sheikh Shahidul Islam not only became politically very powerful, they also amassed enormous wealth under the patronization of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. His sons, particularly Sheikh Kamal also got involved in amassing fortunes and other unethical activities such as Bank robberies.
Regarding the state of corruption during Mujib’s regime, the reputed journalist Lawrence Lift Shulz wrote in the Far Eastern Economic Review on 30th Aug 1974. “Corruption and malpractices are nothing new. But people of Dhaka thinks the way the corruption and malpractices and plunder of national wealth that had taken place during Sheikh Mujibur Rahman’s regime is unprecedented”.
It was virtually impossible for the government to gain any economic or political achievements with such loots and plunders in a newly independent war ravaged country. The looters did not plough back their ill-gotten wealth in the national economy; they spent that fortune for their luxuries and comforts. But the government had to pay heavily as its image got tarnished in the eyes of the people and the world.
Mujib declared himself dictator for life: AWAMI-BAKSAL period is the dark chapter in the history of Bangladesh. Volumes would not be enough to write the full history. On Jan. 25, 1975 with a stroke of pen Sheikh Mujibur Rahman killed democracy and imposed on the nation the yoke of one party rule of BAKSAL. He snatched away from the people freedom of press, freedom of expression, fundamental rights along with all political rights. All national dailies and periodicals were banned except 4 government-controlled dailies. Constitutional rights of the judiciary were also high jacked and was brought under the administrative control. Rule of law thus was buried. Sheik Mujib and his government presented the people fascism in the name of democracy, social injustice in the name of socialism, national disunity in the name of Bengali nationalism and communal disharmony in the name of secularism. In this way after subjugating the whole nation in a state of gasping suffocation all the opposition was crushed systematically through state terrorism with a view to close all the constitutional and democratic avenues to bring any change of government. The nation was thrown into an era of total darkness with no hope to breathe afresh.
The government became isolated from the people. Against the promise to turn Bangladesh into ‘Golden Bengal’ the ruling elites turned Bangladesh into a “bottom less basket”. The common people viewed this as a national betrayal. They became dejected with the Awami League leadership. Awami League lost the people’s support, which was so vital for any government to govern. Gradually they also lost the support of many powerful quarters within the government itself. Their support within the students, youths and armed forces eroded substantially.
An agricultural country Bangladesh is heavily dependent on the nature. It was a gigantic task to feed 100 millions people in a devastated country. The donors and the international communities came forward generously to help Bangladesh in its reconstruction. Till 30th December 1973 Bangladesh received grants and aid credit amounting 1.4 billion US Dollars. Beside through UNROB huge amount of relief assistance was also provided. In spite of this all the hopes and aspirations of the newly independent nation got lost into the nightmare of AWAMI-BKSAL miss rule.
AWAMI-BAKSAL period is the dark chapter in the history of Bangladesh. Volumes would not be enough to write the full history. On Jan. 25, 1975 with a stroke of pen Sheikh Mujibur Rahman killed democracy and imposed on the nation the yoke of one party rule of BAKSAL. He snatched away from the people freedom of press, freedom of expression, fundamental rights along with all political rights. All national dailies and periodicals were banned except 4 government-controlled dailies. Constitutional rights of the judiciary were also high jacked and was brought under the administrative control. Rule of law thus was buried.
The period of AWAMI-BKSAL rule was full of barbaric atrocities. The history of AWAMI-BKSAL rule was basically history of murder, rape, loot, oppression, plunder, famine, capitulation to the foreign exploiters, white terror and above all betrayal to the spirit of the liberation war. People could never be able to forget those horrifying memories. In the name of socialism they plundered the national wealth, they kept the border open for the smuggling, for their mismanagement of the economy the country got recognized internationally as the ‘bottomless basket’. There was no famine in Bangladesh during or just after the war but hundreds and thousands of people had to die out of the man made famine of’74 during the rule of AWAMI-BKSAL.
Sheik Mujib and his government presented the people fascism in the name of democracy, social injustice in the name of socialism, national disunity in the name of Bengali nationalism and communal disharmony in the name of secularism. In this way after subjugating the whole nation in a state of gasping suffocation all the opposition was crushed systematically through state terrorism with a view to close all the constitutional and democratic avenues to bring any change of government. The nation was thrown into an era of total darkness with no hope to breathe afresh.
Treaty of friendship with India March 19 1972: Sheik Mujib and his government presented the people fascism in the name of democracy, social injustice in the name of socialism, national disunity in the name of Bengali nationalism and communal disharmony in the name of secularism. In this way after subjugating the whole nation in a state of gasping suffocation all the opposition was crushed systematically through state terrorism with a view to close all the constitutional and democratic avenues to bring any change of government. The nation was thrown into an era of total darkness with no hope to breathe afresh. It was Awami League of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman that mortgaged the national independence and state sovereignty signing the 25 years long-term unequal treaty with India. By creating Rakkhi Bahini, Lal Bahini, Sheccha Shebok Bahini and other private Bahinis AWAMI-BKSALISTS unleashed an unbearable reign of terror killing 40000 nationalists and patriotic people with out any trial.
It was Awami League of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman that mortgaged the national independence and state sovereignty signing the 25 years long-term unequal treaty with India. By creating Rakkhi Bahini, Lal Bahini, Sheccha Shebok Bahini and other private Bahinis AWAMI-BKSALISTS unleashed an unbearable reign of terror killing 40000 nationalists and patriotic people with out any trial.
RAW-An instrument of Indian imperialism–A Bangladeshi perspective
On 24th Feb 1975 President Sheikh Mujibur Rahman through a decree announced formation of the only political party of the country Bangladesh Krishak Sramik Awami League or BKSAL. He also declared himself to be the chairman of BKSAL. In the 3rd article of the announcement it was stated, “Till any further order from the President all the members of the Parliament of the defunct Awami League, all its members, Cabinet Ministers, deputy Ministers, state Ministers will be considered as the members of the BKSAL. Bongo Bir Gen. Osmani and Barrister Mainul Hossain decided to defy this order and not to join BKSAL instead they both resigned from their Parliament membership.
Due to the announcement of the so-called ‘national party’ all other political parties got abolished. Finally CPB, NAP Muzaffar and Awami League got merged into BKSAL. Out of the 8 opposition members in the Parliament 4 joined BKSAL.
On 6th June 1975 the organizational structure and the constitution of BKSAL was announced. That day names of 115 members central committee were announced. In that 115 members– vice President, Prime Minister, speaker, deputy speaker, Ministers, deputy Ministers, state Ministers, 3 Chiefs of the army, navy and airforce, DG BDR, DG JRB and the secretaries of all the ministries were included.
The Executive Committee of BKSAL
(1) Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, (2) Sayed Nazrul Islam, (3) Mansoor Ali, (4) Khandakar Mushtaq Ahmed, (5) Abdul Hasnat Mohammad Kamruzzaman, (6) Abdul Malek Ukil (7) Prof. Yusuf Ali, (8) Manaranjan Dhar, (9) Mohiuddin Ahmed, (10) Gazi Golam Mustafa, (11) Zillur Rahman, (12) Sheikh Fazlul Haq Moni, (13) Abdur Razzak.
List of the Central Committee of BKSAL
(1) Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, (2) Sayed Nazrul Islam, (3) Mansoor Ali, (4) Abdul Malik Ukil, (5) Khandakar Mushtaq Ahmad, (6) A.H.M Kamaruzzaman, (7) Mahmudullah, (8) Abdus Samad Azad, (9) Yusuf Ali, (10) Fani Bhushan Majumder, (11) Dr. Kamal Hussain, (12) Sohrab Hussain, (13) Abdul Mannan, (14) Abdur Rab Shernyabat, (15) Manaranjan Dhar, (16) Abdul Matin, (17) Asaduzzanan, (18) Korban Ali, (19) Dr. Azizul Rahman Mallik, (20) Dr. Mozzaffar Ahmad Choudhury, (21) Tofayel Ahmad, (22) Shah Moazzam Hossain, (23) Abdul Momen Talukder, (24) Dewan Farid Ganj, (25) Professor Nurul Islam Choudhry, (26) Taher uddin Thakur, (27) Moslemuddin Khan, (28) MD Nurul Islam Manju, (29) AKM Obaidur Rahman, (30) Dr. Khitish Chandra Mandal. (31) Reazuddin Ahmad, (32) M. Baitullah, (33) Rahul Quddus(Secretary), (34) Zillur Rahman, (35) Mohiuddin Ahmad MP, (36) Sheikh Fazlul Haq Moin, (37) Abdur Razzaq, (38) Sheikh Shahidul Islam, (39) Anwar Choudhry, (40) Sajeda Choudhry, (41) Taslema Abed, (42) Abdur Rahim, (43) Abdul Awal, (44) Lutfur Rahman, (45) A.K. Muzibur Rahman, (46) Dr. Mofiz Choudhry, (47) Dr. Allauddin, (48) Dr. Ahsanul Haq, (49) Raushan Ali, (50) Azizur Rahman Akkas, (51) Sheikh Abdul Aziz, (52) Salahuddin Yusuf, (53) Michale Shushil Adhikari, (54) Kazi Abdul Hakim, (55) Mollah Jalaluddin, (56) Shamsuddin Mollah, (57) Gaur Chandra Bala, (58) Gazi Ghulam Mustafa, (59) Shamsul Haq, (60) Shamsuzzoha, (61) Rafiqueuddin Bhuiya, (62) Syed Ahmad, (63) Shamsur Rahman Khan, (64) Nurul Haq, (65) Kazi Zahurul Qayyum, (66) Capt.(Retd) Sujjat Ali, (67) M.R. Siddiqui, (68) MA Wahab, (69) Chittaranjan Sutar, (70) Sayeda Razia Banu, (71) Ataur Rahman Khan, (72) Khandakar Muhammad Illyas, (73) Mong Pru Saire, (74) Professor Muzzafar Ahmad, (75) Ataur Rahman, (76) Pir Habibur Rahman, (77) Sayeed Altaf Hussain, (78) Muhammad Farhad, (79) Motia Choudhury. (80) Hazi Danesh, (81) Taufiq Inam(Secretary), (82) Nurul Islam(Secretary), (83) Fayezuddin (Secretary), (84) Mahbubur Rahman(Secretary), (85) Abdul Khaleque, (86) Muzibul Haq (Secretary), (87) Abdur Rahim(Secretary), (88) Moinul Islam (Secretary), (89) Sayeeduzzaman(Secretary), (90) Anisuzzaman(Secretary), (91) Dr. A Sattar (Secretary), (92) M.A Samad(Secretary), (93) Abu Tahir (Secretary), (94) Al Hossaini (Secretary), (95) Dr Tajul Hossain(Secretary), (96) Motiur Rahman. Chairman. TCB, (97) Maj. Gen K.M. Safiullah, (98) Air Vice Marshal Khandakar, (99) Comodore M.H.Khan, (100) Maj Gen. Khalilur Rahman, (101) A.K. Naziruddin, (102) Dr. Abdul Matin Choudhury, (103) Dr.Mazharul Islam, (104) Dr.Sramul Haq, (105) ATM Syed Hossain, (106) Nurul Islam, (107) Dr. Nilima Ibrahim, (108) Dr. Nurul Islam PG Hospital, (109) Obaidul Haq Eiditor Observer, (110) Anwar Hossain Manju Editor Ittefaq, (111) Mizanur Rahman BPI, (112) Manawarul Islam, (113) Brig. A.M.S. Nuruzzaman DG Jatiyo Rakki Bahini, (114) Kamruzzaman teachers Association, (115) Dr. Mazhar Ali Kadri.
In the same declaration 5 sister organisation of BKSAL were also formed:-
General Secretaries
Jatiyo Krishak league Fani Bhushan Majumdar
Jatiyo Sramik league Professor. Yousuf Ali
Jatiyo Mahila league Sajeda Choudhury
Jatiyo Jubo league Tofayel Ahmed
Jatiyo Chattra league Sheikh Shahidul Islam.
The general Secretaries nominated were most trusted confidants of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. The members of the central committees of these organizations consisted of members taken from CPB, NAP Muzaffar and Jatiyo league of Ataur Rahman Khan.
In accordance with forming of BKSAL on 16th June 1975, News Paper Cancellation Act was promulgated. Under this Act only four nationalized dailies were allowed to be published along with a few weeklies. Rests were all banned. Thus after complete burial of democracy the whole country was subjugated under unprecedented reign of white terror. Being denied of personal security the people was suffocated and became hostages in their own homeland under the tyranny of the autocratic BKSAL rule. The political leaders and workers alike miserably failed to grasp the famous doctrine, “Of the people, by the people and for the people.” Thus people could not achieve their cherished dream in spite of their glorious straggle and sacrifice. All their efforts had got lost once again in the blind alley because of the betrayal of the leadership. Sunday, August 10, 2008 On why Sheikh Mujibur Rahman will not be mourned – From Awami League to BAKSAL Azizul Karim, Canada
@ Bharat ka Dushman
Note that India did not wish to annex Bangladesh territory in 1971 even after defeating Pakistani army. Because it did not want to purchases an additional headaque of Gaddar Bengali muslims. Transit facility asked by India was totally an economical issue not political. India could have paid for this transit charges. What is wrong in that ? Presenting Shaikh Mujib as an Indian agent looks a PAKISTANI VIEW POINT. INDIA has shed its blood for liberation of Bangla desh. Bangladesh can not flourish by taking enmity with India. Because BD is a East Bangal basically not Pakistan.Major Zia ur Rahman had fought against India in 1965 war. How can India expect Mrs Zia Begam to have friendship with India ? Firstly Bengalis got free from DAMANKARI Pakistan in 1971 with help of India. Now they insist that they do not want to bend before Hindus.This was purely a British policy of DIVIDE AND RULE amongs the Indian.Moghul Indentity of Bangla desh will not help them in future. Both Pakistan and Bangladesh rivers are controlled by India. India will surely have an upper hand.
Allah help Pakistan! When will Pakistan understand that India is important for Pakistan as a neigbour and as an ancestor ? Pakistan has nothing to gain from its past policies!
All sensible human beings need peace and prosperity much more than hate on religious or political lines !
Hate destroys the one who propogates, whether it be India or indeed Pakistan.
India on its part is trying to mend its relations even with China so what is Pakistan waiting for ?
Which Pakistan ? West or the East ?On western front India never invaded. It only acted in self defence and defended its territory against Pakistani aggressition on Punch and Chhamb-Jurian sectors. Husseiniwala enclave was als attacked by Pakistan. Pakistani wanted to capture as possible territory in the west in 1971 to compensate for expected loss of East Pakistan.India did attacked east Pakistan to liberate Bangla desh and to solve 10 million refugees problem of safe returning.Brave pakistani army killed innocent bengalis like mosquitos and rats in a cold blood.They burned their houses and raped their women mercilessly.All Pakistani officers both senoir and juniors enjoyed these mass raping and murder in 1971. Agar marna hi hai to aish qyo na kare .This was the message of General AAK Niazi, chief commander of Eastern command of Pakistan. Gen Yahya khan was fully patronised by President Nixon of USA and allowed Gen Tikkakhan to do any thing to save east Pakistan at all costs.
i am happy kafirs have driven fear in ur minds
All of the Human race is ONE! Origin of every living being is from one source. What are we apparently fighting for?
Every individual person seeks Happiness through Love. We learn in schools and colleges, only to succeed in examinations!?
It is also a noteworthy fact that gradations of passions and knowledge that each person has is different from others. This causes the catastrophic effects in society resulting in loss of precious lives, heritages and values!
As individual, what is that we could do? Well certainly yes by setting up an example and leading the life of a simple human being with Humane nature. Within our limitations, this is the best that we can do! Of course, secondary to this, we can be leaders in our own way and pass on the message by words and deeds without getting passionately involved in it!
Love you all fellow Humans
Can you tell me who started the 1965 war. I think my Pakistani counterpart doesn’t have any idea about the real history. And I know that a Pakistani Nationalist doesn’t know the real history cause their history books published full of wrong story. The country Pakistan actually captured by their army. It is the army who from birth hammering their citizen that India & Hindu are their enemy. 1971 war was the revenge of 1965 war. My friend please read the real history in internet then comment or write anything in net. Now people are are very smart and know the truth. Don’t be like funny writer.
What the hell! I don’t think if you anything about the conflict. During March to may of 71 bengalis started to migrate from eastern pakistan to india for the sake of life. Then indian prime minister argued to her pakistani counterpart about it but it was unheard. Then she appealed to International forum to stop those rapes, murder etc, so that migration could be stopped. But in response America, united kingdom totally ignored and asked her (indian prime minister) to shut up as it’s pakistan’s internal problem. It could have if migration would have been stopped from east pakistan. Then when call was unheard she went to Russia for support and they agreed to stop america as later on Us had sent their nuclear capable ship or something. She, in august, formally warned to pakistan to stop unhuman work. But due to support of america again her call gone unheard. Everybody had thought her as fool as Nehru. But she was intelligent and waited for winter to discourage any chance for India china Conflict. And then she finally ordered millitary to offend that to in front of American ambassdr to Dhaka(after that only american president nixon said her bitch). Still you think if it was just a invasion without warning then you need to study enough about general human behaviour. May be pakistan would have never imagined of this war, not at least India would strike first, with just two supporters russia and bangladeshi freedom fighters against a country With support of united kingdom, America, Iran, Srilanka and china. This was not merely a invasion but offensive strike with bang.
pakistan doesnot have courage and pakistan always cheated india, as they trespaas the border in kargil by breaking ceasefire. pakistan is the biggest liar an cheater to the world. Osama was their guest. he got VIP treatment there. Again the world saw the dual face of pakistan.
USA attacked abttabad and killed osama now mr. this is also invasion of pakistan by USA. no u will not say anything to usa bcoz they r ur boss u hve to obey them either they attack u by drone or not..
india is great.. india is always ready to give ans to anyone…. anytime… anywhere….
jai hind…
jai bharat…