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Pakistan Must Reject India’s ‘Aid’ Offer

Submitted by Masroor on August 15, 2010 – 12:30 pm117 Comments

Pointing out India decision to release excess water into the Satluj and Beas rivers which has contributed to widespread flooding in Pakistan, an editorial in a Pakistani paper Sunday called on the government to reject the “hypocritical” Indian offer of aid.

“The offer of aid is akin is throwing salt on our wounds,” the editorial in the Urdu daily Nawa-i-Waqt said.
“Bharat (India) has released water into the Satluj and the Beas and has also offered relief material worth $50 lakh,” it said, referring to Indian External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna Friday speaking to his Pakistani counterpart Shah Mahmood Qureshi and offering $5 million for flood victims in Pakistan.

“India on one hand is carrying out an indiscriminate massacre in occupied Kashmir and had the other day killed nine defenceless Kashmiris. It released water in the Satluj and Beas to exacerbate the flood havoc in Pakistan and and the other hand, threw salt on our wounds by offering us assistance of $50 lakh,” the editorial said.

It called on the Pakistani government to decline, with thanks, the Indian offer of aid because “India’s attitude was hypocritical”.

“It (India) has built dams to secure itself, and is releasing water into Pakistan’s rivers as part of its design to devastate Pakistan, using water as a weapon. Sometimes, it uses the water to flood Pakistan and sometimes, it restricts the flow to transform Pakistan into a parched desert as part of its conspiracy.”

The editorial said the Indian actions in Kashmir and through water showed “it was in effect waging a war against Pakistan which was causing the country extreme damage, while in an effort to hoodwink the world, India had expressed the offer for help.”

The Pakistani government should be extremely cautious of India’s “deceit and trickery”, it said, adding there were only two ways to counter India – “construction of major dams itself, and sustained efforts to free the occupied Kashmiri Valeey, where a genocide of Kashmiri Muslims was underway.”

“If the Pakistani government falters on either of these two objectives, India will succeed in its unholy designs of dismembering Pakistan,” the editorial said.

Pakistan is grappling with its worst ever floods that have left over 1,600 people dead and affected over 14 million people. A media report put the total economic loss due to the floods at around Rs.250 billion ($2.92 billion).

117 Comments »

  • layla says:

    this is the official face of Hindustani hypocrisy. And he needs to be slapped – and hard. that’s the only language he understands.

    • neel123 says:

      @ Layla,

      Clearly you Pakistanis are thick skinned ……have not learned anything for the humiliation of 1971 when 97,000 Pakistani men in uniform were at the mercy of India ……… or you would not have wishful dream to try to slap India ……… !!!

      • layla says:

        you need not one, a lot of slaps for what you’re doing against Pakistan in your hate for it. State terrorism in kashmir, water war, opening floodways into pakistan, causing terrorism via afghanistan are just few examples of you character. and what are you crying about on 71, aren’t you proud of breaking pakistan? isn’t that what your ideologues have taught you and isn’t it what your hindustani government follows as its official policies – trying and breaking pakistan by all means? isn’t that what your agencies are obsessively working about day and night also as their official objectives in black and white? isn’t terrorism of mukti bahni a live example of your terrorism in pakistan? believe me, you aren’t slapped well for all this, or you wouldn’t dare. don’t jump to all conclusions yet. you apparently had a partial victory, and a cheap one, in 71 when u attacked pakistan just when you thought its weak. now watch how the history turns humiliation back on you.

        • neel123 says:

          You are just an impressionable naive, who has learned history from Pakistan propaganda ….. good luck ….. !

          • layla says:

            what a coincidence then. my “history” and “propaganda” is everything similar to what your ideologues have been teaching you. whoa, great coincidence eh neel?. and even better, its ditto on what Hindustan has been doing officially in its hate for Pakistan. whoaaaa…so much for propaganda eh ! lol

            you know what neel, i think you [and it really shows] and most or may be all of your countrymen are a confused lot. you are so confused, so confused – so much that you people can’t even have a moral stand on something – on one common thing. you are still struggling to find that one common reason to justify your sins and that is why you become confused because most of you lie knowingly or unknowingly but you lie so you dont know what youre saying. your army says something else, your politicians talk of south and your so called hodge podge of nation talks of a fifth direction. one day you come on this forum and you agree with pride oh we are proud of breaking pakistan and we are supporting further breakup, the next day, you are completely in denial as if you just fallen from that moon you call a fan in the sky…at the same time, its funniest, to see another schmuck talking something completely opposite to what some other hindustani is saying…then next day he’s saying sommin else and you’re saying sommin else. i mean what the heck. you people are a confused Hodge podge.

            and again, this happens when there’s a lot fed to you, a lot of different conflicting stuff and man made stories to twist the history. yeh yeh, i know taj mahaj was made by a hindy mahraja, lol. at the end, you all end up being confused and hitting your heads to find clarity. in that you keep what u like and leave what u dont from that garbage of history youre fed with.

            well good luck then , now you know yourself a little better.

        • Manoranjan says:

          First of the news published is completetly baseless that flood is because of India. If such things are true then it will come to international forum. even in time of disaster you are preaching of hatred and saying slaping on India. First try to became a civilised country and then you will get respect from international body. Regarding India is country it doesnot like to involved in other country matter since we are marching to became devoloping country. We doesnot like to involve in pitty matter like what you are doing. Pakistan itself created on basis of hatread and it is deep routed in the culture..so first be a civilsed country

          • Ali Alamzeb - Keeping Pakistan First and Foremost says:

            @ Manoranjan

            Keep dancing to the beats….. forget trying to comment on international relations and politics, clearly it is not your cup of tea.. ;)

          • Architect says:

            LOL – Ladies and gentlemen, tonight’s dose of Bhangee comedy is brought to you by Manoranjan!

            Whether or not Hindustan had a hand in the floods, it is still responsible for some of the world’s most shocking human rights violations, many of which are hardly ever reported. There are very few other places in the world, for example, where sexual abuse is used as a tool by the ‘army’ to subdue popular insurrection, as is happening in IOK…but if you’re more concerned about the lives of your fellow Hindus, try looking at the numbers of female babies that are killed off every year in wealthy Hindu families in your country. What would you call that other than a crime against humanity? There are sub-saharan nations that have known decades of brutal warfare, yet still haven’t sunk to that level of depravity.

            But this takes the biscuit – apparenly Hindustan doesn’t like to be involved in other countries! LOL…how do you explain the massacre that the LTTE carried out on your forces in Sri Lanka in 1987? How do you explain China tearing you a new @sshole in 1962? How do you explain Hindustani forces illegally invading Pakistan in 1965 and being shot to pieces by our PAF? How do you explain the army of illiterate doctors and engineers in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, who are using their presence there as a front to launch attacks into Pakistan’s Balochistan province?

            Ali Alamzeb is right – you are living in a world of your own. I wonder, do you need a tourist visa to stay in the Land of Bollywood Fantasies?

            A

        • Arbaaz_1984 says:

          and u dont hate India?… ur immature and falling for propaganda by ur media! u send terrorists to mass murder not just Indians but visitors too! u massacre[really,doing it] in Balloch & NWFP areas! it is proven & reported! in one strike hundreds are killed…when a mob in Kashmir throws stones & militants fire form within the mob & 9 killed[ small nos dead for the scale of challenge & violence security forces manage!]….u have not credibility to talk and u know that…ur just talking to try to save face! & ur no layla! ur a some deranged man! u get paid by USA get charity from them..u have no shame to say ul turn humiliation on us! ur already in hell…so no point saying ul go to hell! u can call mukthi bahini terrostist but the world doesnt agree…proof is they dont compare it to LET or JEM or Taliban….they link it to the french resistance movt against Nazis….after the religious cleansing u think people will keep quite watch!Pakistan is a failed state!

      • imran says:

        …and have you not learnt anything from 1947 when we broke you in two parts without an organised army ending your wet dreams of an akhand bharat!.If we can do it once then we can do so again!.1971 was an Indian conspiracy and terrorism but i am not bitter…1947 was much sweeter!

    • dK says:

      layla – your FM accepted it – what would you call him now – cheat? hypocrite? beggar? liar?
      Would you start a jihad against your government for not doing what you wanted it to do?

  • Rufi says:

    This is a trap from Hindustan to show the crocodile tears to the world so that they can say to the world see when Pakistan is in need we help them and they try to destroy Hindustan.
    We helped them in 1948 when we tried to devour Kashmir, we helped them in 1965 when we tried to take over Lahore, yet we helped them again in 1971 by splitting them in two so that they don’t have the burden of East Pakistan and it won’t be a burden on them.
    We really want to help them by supporting traitors and terrorist to further split them in small parts by creating small countries so that each country can easily manage themselves and later we can invade them easily to devour them since it is easier to eat a bite size.
    This will only make our great leader and double cross “CHANKIA” very very happy in the hell fire he is in.

  • PhoenixRising says:

    They better give this money to the slums which exist in mumbai… tht might do help them to hide their shameless face…

    or maybe..

    they dont want to see it.. but still .. in a state of danger.. if u gonna close ur eyes.. tht doesnt mean u r safe.. but else.. u r destroyed.. thts wht gonna happen with bhindians too..

    testing our patience by releasing the flood first and then trying to send aid … its nt gonna help them to hv a place in our hearts.. they already knw wht their place is..

  • nik says:

    ungrateful dogs? last earthquake we pakistan $25million plus supplies and they cant even say thank you.

    when will indians realize that paki are ungrateful thankless creatures? not worth saving

    • neel123 says:

      You can never trust these treacherous Pakistani muslims …….. we Hindus need not waste our hard earned money on these barbarians ……… !

      • layla says:

        whose taking your petty charity? no one in pakistani nation wants it. you have the most poverty in your so called country. keep this hard earned money to yourself that you’ve earned by spilling blood of kashmiris. pakistan does not need money earned by unlawful criminal means. and just who do you think you are that you will offer pakistan something? take a look at you before you think again about it. and don’t cry money money. and you really think you can make pakistan believe you mean help here? you think we don’t know your gut and what you are really upto against pakistan and what you infact want to brag about by this gesture? you braggers. ull brag for next 100 years even for offering and then again open floods into pakistan next time too. give it to your poors…they deserve this, theyre in worst condition ever humanity has seen.

        • irfan says:

          u stupid cow….wat do you blame us for mismanagement of funds and stealing of money by killing kashmiris? get a reality check of what u ppl are in the first place. u beggars u first beg america for finds to fight terrorism and then use that money to create it. shameless hypocytic A$$es that u are..what do you talk of us dividing pakistan when u as a country has been formed cuz one of ur over ambitious leader of yester years was power hungry. get ur history straight

      • nik says:

        dont say ‘we hindus’ or else we might end up as religious bigoted bastards like them.

        just say we ‘indians’

    • Jasim says:

      when will you indian bastards realise that you are two faced bastards that on one hand kill people and other hand offer help…

      2005 earthquake we took money as international aid that is offered to any country that is suffering from nature destruction even American Katrina recieved aid and pakistan contibuted to it to because it was legit…

      not like you indians where water is released to kill people and then money is given…

      understand the difference you fake christians and your hindu bum chum….

      if you are so fed up with pakistanis why do you bother coming on here and post, me as a pakistani i concinder my piss more precious then visitng your indian forums which are bunch of joke and bollywood stylist commentry….

      now get your head out of your arse and think something good to write next time….

      PAKISTAN ZINDABAAD…

      also i think your country need to give aid to it aid victims and the maoist who are turning agaisnt your goverment in big number daily… because your country only looks after 5 big cities and forgets the rest.!!!!

      • Brother in Islam!
        I m a Muslim first then if there is any recognition I have then It is INDIAN so,
        improve ur tongue sahebji! LEADers have two faced and Leaders v both have
        so why r u blaming to indians? what is this? Pakistan zindabad? What u want to explain………u r proud to be a Pakistani okay its natural feeling and it must be…….but which kind of war is running now?
        we want to put a medicine upon your wounds because of neighborhood and u r behaving like this? is that proper way to express emotions? Pakistan needs help not high talking….most people r vocal and net warriors Is that proper to blame this and that hither and thither? come and face the real factors…just control your tongue u r committing sins that is required forgiveness! some indians may be bastards exceptions r everywhere but u r including all to all so what about those? will they keep quite? U alone have a feeling of being Pakistani? I m a MUSLIM and INDIAN I can crush your face….but I knew the rights of neighbor so I behaving like a REAL brother and u must too.Now u will say pakistan dont needs our sympathy because pakistan is a person and that is u ……… so its your problem admit or not…
        u r creating a huge box of sins my brother! forgive to Allah and indians too. have u not read the HUQUQ-UL-IBAAD? blaming in absence is punishable sins towards Allah
        may Allah bless U and give u proper understanding of Islam and guide u…..aameen
        your brother in Islam

  • r says:

    Arrey who the hell wants to help you bloody pakis, pehle apne app ko sambhalo yaar

    • PhoenixRising says:

      Now SlumDogs Want to make us millionaire… Nice..

      Ask ur pathetic government who open the rivers first.. cause the flood.. and then ask us if we need any aid..

      take tht aid and shove it up ur crack…

      We dont want it..

      • my brother!
        Allah examines people by various ways, now he examines u by your hearts just c an example of HOLY QURAN (sūrat āl ʿim’rān): يَقُولُونَ لَوْ كَانَ لَنَا مِنَ ٱلْأَمْرِ شَىْءٌ مَّا قُتِلْنَا هَٰهُنَا قُل لَّوْ كُنتُمْ فِى بُيُوتِكُمْ لَبَرَزَ ٱلَّذِينَ كُتِبَ عَلَيْهِمُ ٱلْقَتْلُ إِلَىٰ مَضَاجِعِهِمْ وَلِيَبْتَلِىَ ٱللَّهُ مَا فِى صُدُورِكُمْ وَلِيُمَحِّصَ مَا فِى قُلُوبِكُمْ وَٱللَّهُ عَلِيمٌۢ بِذَاتِ ٱلصُّدُورِ}
        means:They say, ” If there was anything we could have done in the matter, some of us would not have been killed right here.” Say, “Even if you had been inside your houses, those decreed to be killed would have come out to their death beds.” [It was] so that Allah might test what is in your breasts and purify what is in your hearts. And Allah is Knowing of that within the breasts.
        in second place Allah reminds:{يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ لَا تَكُونُوا۟ كَٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ وَقَالُوا۟ لِإِخْوَٰنِهِمْ إِذَا ضَرَبُوا۟ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ أَوْ كَانُوا۟ غُزًّى لَّوْ كَانُوا۟ عِندَنَا مَا مَاتُوا۟ وَمَا قُتِلُوا۟ لِيَجْعَلَ ٱللَّهُ ذَٰلِكَ حَسْرَةً فِى قُلُوبِهِمْ وَٱللَّهُ يُحْىِۦ وَيُمِيتُ وَٱللَّهُ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ بَصِيرٌ}
        you who have believed, do not be like those who disbelieved and said about their brothers when they traveled through the land or went out to fight, “If they had been with us, they would not have died or have been killed,” so Allah makes that [misconception] a regret within their hearts. And it is Allah who gives life and causes death, and Allah is Seeing of what you do.
        so my dear Brother in islam! dont hurt the spirit of Islam and don’t avoid the true studies of Islam.
        Allah bless u

  • Akbar says:

    NO AID needed from Criminal Hundu blood sucker, “Banya” harami kuta, gandagi.

  • Architect says:

    How in the world can the global epicentre of AIDS and female infanticide offer ANY help to Pakistan, let alone any other part of the world? The only use for Hindustanis is to use their corpses to build new dams in Pakistan. I know it’s harsh, but in all honesty a living Hindustani is of no use to the world at all.

    A

    • Ali Alamzeb - Keeping Pakistan First and Foremost says:

      @ Architect,

      Too harsh brother…. we’re Pakistani’s, not rascist. You can do better than that dude, it’s not what i expect from an educated and intelligent Pakistani, only a jaahil warmonger which you are not. Unfortunately, there’s a few of them in this forum and it’s sad because it spoils it for the rest of us. We sure have alot more to offer :( Pakistan has a myriad of problems and issues that need to be urgently addressed, we don’t need to indulge ourselves in insult and counter insult because even that is counter productive.

      We have an inherent problem with the Indian government, it’s military and intelligence services and i make no bones about it. Generally, i don’t perceive Hindu’s and Hinduism as the problem and i think it’s important to emphasize this despite what over zealous elements on this forum propagate, which is pathetic, unsocial, filthy and disgusting. This site has become anti-Hindu/India and i, as a Pakistani observer, am very concerned.

      I think we should channel our energies positively by way of constructing a new and prosperous Pakistan because once our own house is solid and strong, no might can harm us. As it happens, a weak and entangled Pakistan is easy prey for many people, as we are seeing with insulting comments appearing in the press about our country.

      I humbly appeal to you and others on this forum, keep Pakistan first and foremost for that is the objective and goal – it is also the need of the hour. Khuda Hafiz my dear brother.

      Regards & Duwa’s

      Ali Alamzeb

      • Jasim says:

        Bahi Ali,

        you are correct… but in response to these gay hindus a harsh response is needed….

        we cannot always sit back and say ALLAH says this and that and Quran teaches this and that and we need to be peacful blah blah blah….

        sometimes we need to answer back in the same tone as these hindu bastards use to shut them up….

        sorry for my reply like these but i am so pissed of at these half naked cow piss drinkers!!!

        • Phaja says:

          That is exactly what you are suppose to be doing, People will hate us and some will like us thats life, who cares what they think on a stupid forum. Fact is India will never attack us and we will never attack them unless a mutually assured destruction kind of a thing happens. Let these Indians bark we can mind our own business.

      • Architect says:

        @ Ali Alamzeb,

        Always a pleasure to hear from you, brother. Unfortunately it seems we have our differences when reacting to Hindustanis on this website.

        If you read through these messages and those on other threads, you will get a clear idea of what their mentality is. With the few notable exceptions, they are largely scum. They come from a lineage that has known only slavery at the hands of successive waves of conquerors, and now that they have finally been awarded their own country, they are asserting themselves as the rabid, racist, insecure cockroaches that they always were.

        Pakistan will march on, inshallah. We will weep for our losses, and we will rebuild – with or without a government. That is my firm belief. But we must never lose sight of the enemy.

        The US has had strategic designs on Pakistan for decades. The Russian Federation has an historic axe to grind with us, after their defeat at our hands in Afghanistan. The Israelis are our ideological opponents, and see us as a threat to their violent existence. But it is ONLY the Hindustanis whose are born to fear and hate us, and who have tried to kill the nation of Pakistan quite literally since its very birth. Brother, that includes your family and mine. These malnourished savages crave the chance to enter Lahore and subject Pakistanis to the kind of religious brutality that we so regularly see on the streets of Bombay and Srinagar. THAT is why I have ZERO respect for them.

        I respect you brother, but I stand by my comments. However much I commend you for your reserved views, I hope you can understand mine.

        A

        • Ali Alamzeb - Keeping Pakistan First and Foremost says:

          @ Architect

          Salaam my dear, respected and most valued brother, may you be well by the grace and blessings of Almighty Allah. I appreciate your swift and concise response, not only that but i also respect your stance.

          I just believe as Pakistani’s we should be bigger and better than this. Alot of people come on this forum who are not Pakistani’s – they have their reasons, maybe some of them want a better understanding of us, maybe some of them want to even poke fun at our nation which is at it’s ‘nadir’ right now and maybe some want to incite us to such a point that they illicit some sort of negative and insulting response from us after which they can say ’see i told you so’. That’s my opinion and i don’t know whether it is reserved or not, but i believe Islam and Pakistan are alot more important right now – of course whilst also keeping a watchful eye on our neighbour to the east ;)

          I firmly believe that eventually the Indian problem will take care of itself anyway. The curtailment of their influence in a post-war Afghanistan will be a big blow to them and future events are heading that way. With regards to Russia, i don’t believe they want to antagonise Pakistan right now – they want to negate American influence in the region more than anything. Gen Kiyani visited Russia last year on a strategic visit and Zardari will be visiting his Russian counterparts towards the end of fall this year. Why? Pakistan is wary but is extending it’s hands towards the Russians and it is interesting. America, on the other hand, wants more and more say in Pakistan and wants to expand it’s presence, after all we are a satellite state, shameful as it is. Remember the ultimate aim is to weaken and subdue Pakistan to such a point where a military invasion becomes the doctrine of neccesity. They hope to implement this by 2015 at the latest but i’m of the view that alot more will happen between now and then which will change the geo political scenario and manipulate America into rethinking it’s strategy. Afghanistan is a mess and America must first find a solution to this for which Pakistan is indispensable. Political and social anarchy is spreading in Pakistan and if not curbed coud trigger the imposition of martial law – a scenario which no Pakistani wants to see. Let’s see how events transpire.

          Take great care. I pray for your health and prosperity and for that of your family in this blessed and sacred month of Ramdhan. May all your duwa’s be fulfilled and even those you forget to ask for. Elaahi Ameen. Khuda Hafiz.

          Regards & Duwa, Your humble brother

          Ali Alamzeb

          • Architect says:

            @ Ali Alamzeb,

            Wasalaamz Brother…it’s always heartening to know that there are Pakistanis like you representing the nation. I hope you and your family are well, and benefiting from this blessed month of Ramadan.

            Brother I agree completely with your analysis. It seems that Pakistan has been a thron in the side of many since the country’s very birth – we all know how desperate the British and the Hindustanis were to kill the idea off, even as late as 1946. When I think about the potential of Pakistan, I am in complete awe – to think that despite all our hardships over the years, we are still a nuclear power and major international player. It is nothing short of a blessing from The Almighty.

            You’re completely correct about Hindustan’s failures in Afghanistan – I think the writing is generally on the wall for them, in light of NATO’s complete failure to subdue the country. It’s a shame they didn’t read just a few cursory history books before sending their third-rate engineers and mickey-mouse doctors there – the Pathans are far too proud to accept the magnanimity of a country which still prides itself on burying female babies. These truly are interesting times, and the next few months in Pakistan will be crucial in determining how much of a long-term impact these devastating floods will have in the country. Ultimately, we will not rise until we acknowldege that our very existence is hated and feared by many, and that we are, essentially, completely alone.

            Bro these Hindustanis have delusions of grandeur – on this very website I have experienced first-hand how much rubbish they manage to cook up, just after some rudimentary follow-up of their many mindless claims. I will be the first to accept that your stance is more dignified than mine – you are putting all your energy into the betterment of the country, and that is priceless. But I take a very childish, very personal pleasure in stamping out these stupid malnourished Hindustanis when they come onto websites like this with ideas well above their station. For your sake I will try to refrain from excessive ripostes, but I think you and I will always differ on how to treat these pestilent morons.

            May Allah SWT grant you and your family the very best of health and spirit for this month and beyond. All the best bro.

            A

          • my all blessing with u!
            If like u all pakistanis want to make a position and tries your best to achieve the goal then my all blessings r with u even I m a Muslim and Indian because I love humanity…..and would rather an emotional to all pakistanis because they r my brothers in Islam.
            just I want to say in words of Allama IQBAL emphasize your intentions which is the translation of this Verse of Holy Quran: ان الله لا يغير ما بقوم حتي يغيروا ما بانفسهم
            KHUDA NE AAJ TAK US QAUM KI HALAT NAHI BADLI
            Na ho JISKO khyaal khud apni Halat ke badalne ka
            wish u All the Best to achieving your aim

        • Manoranjan says:

          Dont comment as Hindu India is multireligious, multilanguae country, Today there is more Muslim in India then Pakistan and even reached to political peak like Abdul Kalam and today our prime minister is sikh which is minority and even today our top acter is muslim. But i would doubt if pakistan people has such broad mind. It is impossible to see that any hindu become PM in Pakistan. Inspite of problem we are top 10 ecomony of the world. What about you? You are now a hub of terorism…and begger of America….Let learn something from India.Even after your so much trouble we still want to have friendly relation with you and wanted to see prosporus pakistan. We always thankfull for your AID recived time to time in our natural calamighty and we always appreciated your kind gesture.

          • Architect says:

            No, you don’t comment about Pakistan. I read your words and all I see is another Hindustani who knows nothing about his fascist country’s Hindutva identity.

            Pakistan is the hub of terrorism? Can we even keep count of the number of Hindustani ’soldiers’ who are having their @sses kicked time and time again in Orissa? Pakistan has a terrorist problem, but by the grace of God our jawans and our people are facing it down, with courage. That’s right, COURAGE. What are you doing with your terrorists? You are electing them to power through the BJP and giving them mountains of financial support through the RSS and VHP. Does the name Colonel Purohit ring a bell?

            LOL – if Pakistan is a beggar nation, what do you call a country which has states that are poorer than the poorest countries in Africa? You think that a handful of Brahmin millionaires is a good definition of a thriving country? Wake up! You’re throwing shoddy ‘Made in Hindustan’ rockets into space while your people are using the open streets as their toilet. Don’t come to me or anybody else in the world with your talk about economic success.

            A

          • Khalil Gilani says:

            By the way Manoranjan, there are more muslim in Pakistan than in India.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_countries_by_muslim_population

            Yeah, maybe there were more muslims in India than in Pakistan, but then all the extrajudicial mass murders in Kashmir/Gujrat/other places in India.

            You guys are so sick you actually made a difference in mass population you blood suckers!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Mak says:

      @Architect! No foul language please………………………………………………………….

  • Hijazi says:

    @ nik and R,

    We do not need any help from you.

    You cannot feed your own poor how can you help us, go dream elsewhere. WE are good to take care of ourselves … And remember – You will pay a hefty price for this.

  • Khan Of Pakistan says:

    To all Muslims; it is your duty to wake others and go out and help the flood effected victims.

    Islam channel and other TV channels are running live appeals for the flood disaster victims in Pakistan. Islam channel and other TV channels have raised millions and still going strong raising so needed monies for the flood effecties. Most donators are small childrencalling in donating from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Africa, Europe and England.

    Please watch Islam channel and watch before your eyes, how the Muslims from around the world are calling in for Pakistan and for beloved Pakistanis. Allahumdullialh Muslims are united and will share each other’s pain and sufferings together as one body.

    Denounce indian napak paleeth aid. Infect india should spend this for her poor and dying people living in slums and in grave poverties and Adi deseas.

    Allah’s Lanath on india and on indian hindos. Inshallah

    Pakistanis listen; Media channels from around the world are waking up, where ever the Muslims are living and they are getting in touch with their governments and media channels to support their Muslim Pakistani brothers and sisters and children.

    Pakistan and Pakistanis will come out of any shortcomings and will lead this world like a King State of Islam. Do not be disheartened, everything comes from Allah and goes back to Allah. Insahallah

    Remember; ask Pakistani media channels to stop all programs temporally and announce (((Live Appeal))) for people to wake up and come forward to help and support their brothers and sisters in dire conditions drowning in flood waters.

    Ask everyone to come forward and donate; clothes, Madison, tents, shelters, food, water, boiled water, fruit and sanitary and toiletries.

    PKKH please run a call to all media in Pakistan so everyone should immediately come to help through their donations and good and food. Pakistan needs us. Call on all Muslims from around the world.

    DO NOT JUST SIT AND WAIT, ACT NOW AND RAISE ALL THE SUPPORT AND HELP FOR THE FLOOD EFFETIES.

    ALLAH IS THE PROTACTOR OF PAKISTAN; NO SWEAT!

  • WAKEUP PAKISTAN says:

    Dear All Assalam-0-alaikum:- WakeUP My brother ans sister Do not fight with other, be united as One Muslim Ummah, Follow the path of Prophet Mohammad(P,B.U.h) and Quran.
    Remember United We Stand

    At least we all Pakistani must know What our enemies (America,UK,Israel & India Government) are doing against us to kill & finish our civilization from world map and we are still fighting with each other.

    Pakistan Flood: HAARP Used in Pakistan by American Government? – Urgent

    What is HARRP ???? How it can create Earth Quakes & Floods Check the below links
    ———————–http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR6O3kJTqaI&feature=related

    they know they cant win a war with Nuclear armed Pakistan so they used HAARP Waves.
    This is the same thing they did in Haiti first they Created a massive Earth Quake by using HARRP, kill millions of people for their Selfish Last and them they send their soldiers for the Welfare and Aid work in Haiti. American Government a Big cheater, they murdered pakistani by creating flood in pakistan Northern Area till Sindh. They are the American

    All started suddenly and thousands died, millions displaced, hundreds of villages vanished in the matter of just 4 days!!…strangely there were no weather warnings, no alarms.. these are the worst floods in the history of Pakistan BUT no one from Global MET offices could even trace what is going on in this region?

    We have investigated this matter and concluded that HAARP has recently been used in NW area of Pakistan .. the choice of starting point was perfect.. all the flood is going in downstream i.e. Khyber (Hills) to Karachi (Sea)… it is designed to submerge entire Pakistan and bring up the worst crises and chaos ever happened.. they know they cant win a war with Nuclear armed Pakistan – it would be a mutual destruction, so they have other ways to do it!.

    Check the link below:- check the link below:

    http://www.daily.pk/is-the-cia-playing-the-haarp-in-pakistan-19785/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailypk+(Pakistan+Daily)

    What is HARRP ???? How it can create Earth Quakes & Floods Check the below links
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR6O3kJTqaI&feature=related

    http://www.pakalertpress.com/2010/08/06/pakistan-flood-photos-haarp-fingerprints-found-allover/

    Following up on and keeping pace with HARP technology is a ponderous and monumental task. Most analysts feel that there is more to the bizarre freak weather anomaly causing such devastation across Russia, China & Pakistan/Kashmir. Almost every year there are strange and focused disastrous weather anomalies causing untold destruction and damage and all have been “anomalies” and freak weather conditions.

    1) We have seen Hurricanes
    2) We have seen Earthquakes target Pakistani Azad Kashmir
    3) We have seen Landslides
    4) We have seen Tsunamis target Indonesia
    5) We are now seeing another phase of floods targeting Pakistan

  • Satyavaadi (truth talker) says:

    Good thing about the floods is that Pakistanis are now forced to bathe everyday and many get to wash their a$$ atleast once before dying…

    Yet another good thing about the floods is that Pakistan will now be a real force in the swimming competitions at this year’s Asian Games in China…

    Great idea to use corpses to build dams – definitely going to come in handy again in Pakistan now

    Quick fact on how much the a living Pakistani is worth to the world….The UN said Aug. 13 it has received only 20 percent of the $460 million it needs to provide emergency aid to the homeless and hungry in Pakistan…meanwhile….the international community had pledged a total of $9.9bn (£6.5bn) in immediate and long-term aid to earthquake-hit Haiti at a UN donor conference.

    Need I say more?

    • WAKEUP PAKISTAN says:

      Dear Satyavaadi (truth talker) LISTEN: -

      As a nation we are facing the worse crisis AND Corrupt and Evil leaders who are ruling us, thats why we as nation are not in a position to defend ourself on any commits against us. But we as nation can serve our brothers and sisters at this Flood Disaster Inshallah.

      We as Muslim Nation strongly believe on Allah’s Help and Allah’s Blessing Inshallah.

      We KNOW our leader will going to eat the Whole Aid in Dollars because this a Currupt Government Imposed on Pakistani people against their will by external Powers for fulfilling their Devilish Goals.

      But I have a strong believe on my young generation who are very motivated, loyal to peoples, helping in nature, educated, peaceful and gOOD MUSLIMS together we will inshallah cope WITH our problems INSHALLAH WITHOUT THE HELP OF OUR CORRUPT GOVERNMENT.

      Talk about your comments, i do not really want to responds to your comments, because i do not want to get involve in useless arguments as Good Muslim and pakistani.

      I am answerable to Allah that’s why i have to be focus on serving my Nation on this big disaster without considering what my government is doing, we as nation by the grace of Allah and by the help of Allah have mANY resources to deal with THIS FLOOD DISASTER AND WITH OUR PROBLEMS.

      i would request you Mr Satyavaadi better focused on your own life and career and your.

      Can i ask you a question ??? What is the reason of your existence in this world ?? mean do you know Why Allah has send you in this world ???? For what purpose ??? Find the Purpose of your exietence and be focused on it. you Will find peace in it.

      Have a Good Day

    • Jasim says:

      an idiot like you would obviously come out with rubbish as your parents are made from the slum shits of inida….

      We might have flood and migth become good swimmer, but what about your country who has the highest number of poor, are they training to be top beggars in the world? what about aid, are they becoming one of world tops prostitute providers…

      i can go on and say alot more about your filthy disgusting low life Hindustan but I am a Muslim and have respect for human life unlike you idol worshippers…

      Haiti earthquake literally destroyed the whole country and the damage was way way more then pakistans!!!!

      We pakistanis will recover and as usual always come back strong.. while you indians carry on censoring your poor suffering to gain CMG and other status… atleast we show the world what our poors are suffering from and need help where you let your poor die and then cry like bitches on TV that Naxal and maoist are on increase ever thought why you piece of shit?

      now go and work out how much an indian life is worth to indians themselves then worry about pakistan you filthy bastard!

    • Imran says:

      Still far better then India where 450 million are on the streets eating rats for dinner!.How about all that prostitution and AIDS that is breaking records on a daily basis!.We depend on Allah not on cow’s,monkey’s or snakes to help us out in our hour of need!.I’ve just been reading how the slumdog’s are struggling to clean Delhi before the commonwealth games…barefoor women and naked children with bricks on their heads running around!

      Rest assure that regardless of the current situation their will always be far less poverty in Pakistan then India where people don’t even bother cleaning themselves and why should they when the have a daily bath by standing at a cows rear end before heading for the filthy Ganges for a errrr….”holy” gathering!!

      It’s good that we are receiving little help because in the long run it will make us self-dependent unlike the slumdogs who receive more AID then any other nation!.As the old saying goes that “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”…that’s for human being not urine drinkers by the way!.The waters will fade away in time where as Pak will last forever….your worst nightmare as we all know it!

    • Architect says:

      At last, in the middle of the disaster, a sense of humour.

      Why would a Hindustani be concerned about others taking baths? Perhaps you want the rest of the world to swim in their own faeces, like you do in your ‘Ganges’. Hmmm, no wonder you guys are breaking new records for HIV diagnosis. Maybe we should make that an event in the Asian games as well!

      On that note, since Hindustanis are physically deficient, maybe we need to add some other events that are better suited for them. Burying babies? Setting fire to women? Drinking urine? No other nation would stand a chance against Gandhi’s children, lol.

      The only problem with using Hindustani corpses for dams would be that we would need to ship in twice as many of them – they are so malnourished and substandard, they would crumble to pieces under a kitchen tap. Definitely worth a try, though. We can get a supply chain of dead personnel sent to us by the Maoists.

      Just a note to all Pakistanis – remember…THIS is what our ancestors fought for. THIS is the kind of scum that would have governed our fate had we not won our independence in 1947. PAKISTAN ZINDABAD.

      A

      • layla says:

        @ THIS is the kind of scum that would have governed our fate had we not won our independence in 1947

        everyone should read this and recall what we have forgotten. Muslims went to all extents but eventually back to square one realizing there’s no other way.

        • Swapnil says:

          and this is the kind of filth (read the sialkot boys) that we would have had to govern…thank god and thank you Mr. Jinnah…

          • Architect says:

            LOL – the Sialkot incident is a picnic compared to the filth that permeates your whole society, from your low-class Hindus who set fire to their women, to your high-class Brahmins who bury their female babies.

            You liked the Sialkot incident that much? Check out some videos from Gujarat in 2002…you’ll have several hundred Sialkots, all with government approval. What a sick, cursed nation.

            A

          • Swapnil says:

            Architect, go build some building for your beloved country, 80% of your infra is washed away my friend…
            No point arguing whose daddy is strongest…India needs to get it’s act togther no doubt about it and we can’t thank you guys enough for bringing all your ISI classified stuff to our knowledge. With the fantastic and constructive feedback we receive about our country from you friendly folks we would ensure that we improve, infact that’s the sole reason we visit this website so often these days is precisely that. This India dedicated site is of immense help to us brother…THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS FOR US, akhir eek bhai hee bhai kay kaam aata hai, you guys REALLY prove it.

          • Architect says:

            @ Swapnil,

            Maybe you should try Swapping your computer for a toilet, do your neighbourhood a favour.

            If your hi-level intel agencies are are trawling through sites like this for inspiration, then it seems that the ISI really doesn’t have too much to worry about. Our boys can keep up their good work in Orissa while Hindustanis like you gain ‘valuable’ intel from this site. Good luck with that…

            A

          • Swapnil says:

            Oh, don’t worry brother, i have a WiFi at my place, i can take my computer to the toilet as well, i know you miss me even if i am away for 5 minutes..but don’t worry i will stay connected even if i am in the toilet..

          • Architect says:

            Toilet? You mean that patch of land outside your mud hut?

            A

          • Swapnil says:

            Yes offcourse and see we have WiFi even there, may be that’s why we are progressing and you are not

          • Architect says:

            Oh..I thought it was because you are still setting fire to your widows in 2010AD. Sounds like real progress to me.

            A

    • nik says:

      OH MY GOD :D :D DUDE stop it. i am dying laughing…. ROFL

  • Tony Singh says:

    Hardliners on both side of the divide, keep your mouths shut. You have roof on your heads, a place called home. And then there are these helpless millions, whose lives have been shattered by this natural calamity and you debate whether the giving help or accepting it is a great idea or not. Shame on you people.

    • H says:

      Well said Tony. I totally agree with you

      I am disappointed to see these people who just use the internet to bash each other instead of being constructive about things. People are homeless and dying… and somehow that is NEVER a cause for concern for all these hardliners… really shameful!

  • Salman says:

    I think this is our fault as well. We the Pakistanis are still living in so much of mistrust and suspicions (Provinces vs Provinces) that we have not been able to formulate one national policy on anything. Everything is based on regional or provincial based. Had we developed some cohesiveness or nationalism in our country, we would have built several dams on these rivers to protect our countrymen from these floods.
    Its easy to blame India for releasing water into these two rivers Sutlej and Beas, but who stopped us from building more dams on these rivers? Nobody. So we need to stop blaming others for our weaknesses and correct the faults of our own by taking decisions which will protect and improve our country’s future.

  • WAKEUP PAKISTAN says:

    Dear Satyavaadi (truth talker) LISTEN: -

    As a nation we are facing the worse crisis AND Corrupt and Evil leaders who are ruling us, thats why we as nation are not in a position to defend ourself on any commits against us. But we as nation can serve our brothers and sisters at this Flood Disaster Inshallah.

    We as Muslim Nation strongly believe on Allah’s Help and Allah’s Blessing Inshallah.

    We KNOW our leader will going to eat the Whole Aid in Dollars because this a Currupt Government Imposed on Pakistani people against their will by external Powers for fulfilling their Devilish Goals.

    But I have a strong believe on my young generation who are very motivated, loyal to peoples, helping in nature, educated, peaceful and gOOD MUSLIMS together we will inshallah cope WITH our problems INSHALLAH WITHOUT THE HELP OF OUR CORRUPT GOVERNMENT.

    Talk about your comments, i do not really want to responds to your comments, because i do not want to get involve in useless arguments as Good Muslim and pakistani.

    I am answerable to Allah that’s why i have to be focus on serving my Nation on this big disaster without considering what my government is doing, we as nation by the grace of Allah and by the help of Allah have mANY resources to deal with THIS FLOOD DISASTER AND WITH OUR PROBLEMS.

    i would request you Mr Satyavaadi better focused on your own life and career and your.

    Can i ask you a question ??? What is the reason of your existence in this world ?? mean do you know Why Allah has send you in this world ???? For what purpose ??? Find the Purpose of your exietence and be focused on it. you Will find peace in it.

    Have a Good Day

  • Uzair says:

    Why are these Indian shitbags doing here anyways? I don’t understand why these low life fags can’t stick with their own websites and forums? Do they not have a life? Don’t they have enough problems in their own country to worry about? I always find these scumbags in our forums talking shit. Go in your slums and screw yourself.
    I have a message to Hindustani guys, honest to God let me tell you this, people in Pakistan won’t forget Indias role in destabilizing Pakistan. No matter what you guys say or do, we know who’s behind what and by God you guys will pay the price one day. What makes you guys think that setting your neighbors house on fire will save your house? Just wait and see what happens next.

    • Architect says:

      @ Uzair,

      Bro I agree with you 100%. Go to any website like this one, and you’ll find a mini-ghetto of Hindustanis there, posting the same kind of nauseating crap that you’re reading from them here.

      The way I see it is this: most of them have been raised in the shadow of their ancestors’ failures. Pakistan was created as a result of their bigotry and anti-Muslim insecurity, and every day that the country exists is a massive kick in the teeth for them.

      Bro look at 1965 – an 18-year-old air force wiped the floor with them, despite a 1:5 numerical disadvantage. If you were on the receiving end of that, wouldn’t you resort to posting lame messages on bulletin boards like these guys do? What else would you be able to come up with?

      Look at Kashmir – all the separatist discontent in Balochistan, Sindh and Khyber PUT TOGETHER cannot come close to the kind of fury that the Kashmiris feel at being part of the fabricated federation of Hindustan. These guys have to use sexual abuse and indiscriminate violence as tools in an attempt to quell the insurgency, and still the Kashmiris fight on. If you had to live with that shame, wouldn’t you deflect your failures by pointing at your neighbour?

      Bro in all honesty, they deserve our pity more than our rage – even now, when they are in their so-called ‘economic boom’, the majority of their population is still defacating on the streets. Just imagine how bad things will be when the Maoists finally get their independent state, huh?

      A

  • nik says:

    afghanistan given $1.5billion to reconstruct it self.
    bangladesh handed out $1billion credit line.
    srilankan tamil dominated area is specifically being developed by india, post ltte, India has so far committed $200million or more, the FTA we have with them is hugely in favor of SL.
    bhutan quite literally lives off India.
    burma since 1990’s has been doled out 100s of millions of dollars for its development.
    pakistan was given a good enough aid during the 2005 earth quake, our friends there removed the “made in india” tag and in most cases let the whole thing rot, recently india has again offered multiple millions of dollars as aid but yes it is our fault the GoP turns a blind eye to it.
    each year India hands out over a billion dollar aid to friendly countries across the african continent, the tele medicine and tele education today connects 23 countries of africa with india and the attempt is to make it available for all 52 countries so that people do not move out of their home towns still get education and health from a distant India with all expenses borne by India, the benefit of which has so far seen over 6,000 african students getting education and many lives saved.
    India today has become a aid donor country to IMF with significant donations which sustains countries like pakistan in need of that money.
    there are countless other efforts across the globe right from haiti, to latin america to rest of asia to much much more than what i have listed.

    • Jasim says:

      and your point is ???????

      Who on this forum has said that India doesnt give Aid>???

      If we dont want to accept it , it is our choice…

      by the way UK also donated so much money to flood hit areas of bengal two years ago for reconstruction… i think India needs to spend its aid money on themselves first and help there people and then worry about creating there friednly vision…

      Pakistan is not in position to offer any aid due to our war with Terroist, due to countries like India interfering in provinces…. but that wont be long… we will rise up again and that to very soon….

      Also Nik the problem with Hindustanis is that if they provide AID why do they boost about it so much, please dont forget your country is also given aid by other countries when any disaster strikes… e.g America was given adi by other coutnreis when Katrina happened, even though they are SUPER POWER!!!!…. so giving AID to other countries its nothing big, its part of the whole world bank system to give and take…

      So its better you look at tthis side as positive rather then scarstic comments as they will only be slapped back at your face.

      Take care

  • Tony Singh says:

    Yet to read a sillier article than this. Before blaming India, at least read about frozen jet streams which have caused extreme weather conditions. Hot and dry conditions in Moscow where fires are raging and threatening the nuclear plant, and extremely wet conditions in North west India and Pakistan and in some parts of China. Also eastern India is facing drought like conditions. Understand scientifically these weather phenomena.
    @layla As far as bombing of dams is concerned, I suggest Ms Layla see the movie “The Day after” to get some insight.

  • DY says:

    for god sake thinks about the people suffering, can we keep our sarcasm a side and think about people in need and take all the aid possible to help them.
    For once do it for humanity.

  • rc says:

    How the hell do any of you have any effect on your governments actions, either indians or pakistanis? How can any of you possibly blame indians or pakistani people for their government’s actions? I really don’t understand why this hatred is so strong. it surely can’t be that people on both sides have one conscience, can it? are they all conspiring together against you? i’m glad to say i don’t consider myself part of any country.

  • Ali Alamzeb - Keeping Pakistan First and Foremost says:

    @ Architect

    Hi and Salaam my dear and respected brother. Thank you for your wonderful reply and your kind words which in all honesty humbled me. Of course you can indulge in banter with the Indians, no problem ;) and bhai jan i will leave you to it – it doesn’t change the respect i have for you one bit lol! I won’t ask you to apply the brakes, go full steam Architect! hahahaha :)

    Regarding the comment you made about being in awe of Pakistan – boy it is both amazing and nothing short of an ‘ejaz-e-khuda’ or miracle. Left to humans this country would have been ravaged and pillaged (we can see signs of this) which must mean that there is a mightier entity keeping a silent vigilant watch over this country, a nation that sacrificed more than three million of it’s inhabitants at inception – the fact that Pakistan is still standing is testament to this mighty entity.

    Let me share an interesting fact about how rich and potentially wealthy Pakistan really is. Everyone knows about the Thar coal reserves, the gas reserves and copper/diamond mines in Balochistan (worth $65bn and are the largest deposits in the world), the vast mineral reserves in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and the salt mines in Khewra (Punjab). Recently it was discovered that Pakistan has the equivalent of 300bn barrels of oil both on and off shore in Balochistan province, some experts put the estmates at six trillion barrels – That is phenomenal. You see now why Pakistan must be reigned in and secured by the imperial powers?

    Another sad thing that i must mention here is that alot of work on our massive gas reserves in Balochistan was contracted out to foreign firms at meagre prices, a huge loss to Pakistan. After the military coup in 1999, Pakistan was to be out put under the strict guidelines of the IMF and WB – the REAL reason why Musharraf and Shaukat Aziz were brought to power. As part of the IMF/WB measures, state institutions like PSO and PSM (see why Musharraf and Shaukat Aziz tangled with the CJP?) had to be privatised. This is the damage our rulers have done and yet people still defend them and claim they were good and sincere people. They had vested interests in the copper and gold mines in Balochistan and made alot of money, the same with Zardari now – why is his government silent about these mines? Because they are involved in minting dollars to the T. It’s sad but Pakistan only owns 25% of the copper project in Balochistan, the rest had been sold off to a trio of American, English and Australian firms :( No doubt one or two (not you) will leave comments and ask me to provide proof of my statements, my answer is simple: go, research and find the truth yourself, why believe me? Truth never hides, one only needs to fulfil the conditions of impartiality and sincerity to search and find it.

    You used the word ‘awe’, i will use the words ‘blinding miracle’ – and that’s how wealthy Pakistan really is and only the new, morally upright and sincere generation will take Pakistan to where it really belongs and where Almighty Allah wants to see us. Inshallah.

    Take great care. Will most certainly be remembering you in my supplications after prayers during this sacred month, aswell as all those afflicted by flood, destruction and devastation in Pakistan. May you be in the ‘hifz and amaan’ of Almighty Allah. Khuda Hafiz.

    Regards & Duwa, Your Humble Brother..

    Ali Alamzeb

    • Architect says:

      @ Ali Alamzeb,

      Brother there is nothing I can add to your post to improve on it – you have summed up the tragic beauty that is Pakistan perfectly. These silly Bhangee scumbags who come on here have so far had one success – they have given me hope that there are more Pakistanis like you, who not only see and acknowledge the breathtaking level of potential the country has, but are also proud to stand by that country through the very best and the very worst.

      I too have heard numerous reports about the immense levels of natural mineral wealth that lie untapped under Pakistan’s sacred soil – brother even the wood and marble, which tumbles from the mountain faces, is of such high quality it can be sold across the world. Punjab has enough food to feed the whole country. The energy potential of Sindh and Balochistan could power the nation several times over, if exploited correctly and with maximum emphasis on the welfare of those provinces. The fierce Pathans of Khyber have proven, from the earliest weeks of the country’s existence, that they are among the most patriotic, zealous Pakistanis to grace the land. The Kashmiris, who have suffered under foreign Hindustani occupation for so much of their lives, can still boast some of the most heavenly, heartstoppingly beautiful land there is on this planet. Every single province in Pakistan is so blessed, it is impossible to believe that the country cannot rise from this current challenge.

      Just read the messages from other Pakistanis here. However much a few Hindustanis try to brag about this duplicitous ‘aid’ package, the average Pakistani is livid at the very idea. It is only our black-hearted government that sees this differently, and that too as a result of some cajoling by Uncle Sam. There is a groundswell of pure, genuine, patriotic indignance emerging from the citizens of this land, and with people like yourself at the helm inshallah, I can only see a strong, successful Pakistan emerging in the future. This is my du’a, every day.

      As always, brother, the very best to you and your family – I pray for their wellbeing and yours, and hope Allah’s blessings shine on you, and all Pakistanis across the world.

      A

  • sandy says:

    instead of indulging yourself in a controversial argument over here.go and help ya people…

  • Sandy says:

    Sorry to read so much of venom being poured between Pakis and Indians. It is shameful.
    First one must learn to be good human beings first.

    God does not distinguish between hindues, muslims or christians….i would urge everybody to support Pakistan in the flood crisis. Humanity is paramount.

    And please both people (pakis and Indians) stop this abuse and hatred, it helps no one.

    Sandy (India)

  • gsb says:

    Pakis, a pity we extended a hand of help to mankind regardless of who he is……
    We are indeed sorry to bother you in your misery & I do sincerely hope The Indian Govt should avoid extending any further assistance in aid such as money or food.

    We certainly dont want to do anything with you, so I should feel that you should mind your own nation, stop talking about Kashmir, men women & children in Kashmir belong to India.

    I also hope that guys like Ajmal kasab (Paki) can be put under leash by your Govt or else we will have to lynch them.

    • Architect says:

      Funny how the Bhangee ‘hand of help’ disappears when the world focuses on their downtrodden religious minorities, eh?

      LOL…I have some really bad news for you pal – Pakistan is NOT talking about Kashmir…Kashmiris are talking about Kashmir. They’re talking despite being shot at by those cockroaches in Bhangee ‘Army’ uniforms. They’re talking despite the repeated and unrelenting physical and sexual assaults they have to endure by the mindless fascists who call themselves ’security forces’. They’re talking despite the fact that the world has sidelined them, and the West has decided to chase the pennies of a few rich Brahmins in exchange for moral obligations. Actually my friend, they’re shouting now. They’re shouting pro-Pakistan slogans, they’re shouting at the shame of being called Hindustanis, and they’re shouting for their freedom. With or without Pakistan, inshallah, they will win it.

      If you want to make some use of that donated money, you would be better off asking for it back and spending it on welfare projects to prevent your manufactured country from falling apart like a decaying corpse.

      A

      • Swapnil says:

        and then a dog peed on you face and you woke up..isn’t it??????

        • Architect says:

          @ Swapnil

          ‘…isn’t it?’

          That’s the typical expression of a fresh Hindustani who can’t speak english properly. I’ll save my replies for those Bhangees who at least know how to speak properly, because you’re just wasting my time. Go back to your cow urine and learn how to speak the international language.

          A

          • Swapnil says:

            “Go back to your cow urine”…is that a place?, where is it? In Pakistan?
            You seem to be obsessed with bhangees, want to be one yourself, i am sure you will do a good job at that..

          • Architect says:

            @ Swapnil,

            Er…no, sweetheart, it’s not a place – and what does Pakistan have to do with cow urine? I don’t know of a single Pakistani who takes pleasure in drinking and bathing in it. That’s your speciality.

            Can somebody explain why I’m teaching Bhangee culture to a Bhangee?

            A

          • Swapnil says:

            Oh sorry sir ji, i though you need to be taught the bhangee stuff, but it seems you are already a master bhangee and now you have started taking classes for that too, GREAT JOB…you must be really smart…
            Bathing in cow urine, oh yes, we have a mullah hafiz saeed in India, i heard he bathes in cow urine and now guess what he has been offered a lux add with none other that Katrina Kaif, he has turned really beautifull..though i am allergic to it, you should try that sometime, may be you will stink a little less
            Sould we send some over, do not know if all your cows are washed away in floods or some remain

          • Architect says:

            @ Swapnil,

            Yes, some cows remain here, thank you. Kindly refrain from sending anything more, because the last thing we need is for our remaining livestock to be infected by the countless diseases that have a natural home in your sewer of a country.

            That’s all; the rest of your post is Bhangee nonsense.

            A

          • Swapnil says:

            Naheee, aab tou main bhejunga..orrr zaroor bhejungaaa…
            You know what (this is highly sensitive and classified information – only for you though), there are actually 732 infected cows (we call them Al Cowda in India) waiting at the LOC to cross over to your side, they are waiting for the snow fall, once that happens the India army would give them cover fire and they would quitely sneak into your lands, if your Army retaliates to our firing we would go out and tell every body that it was the Pak amry that started the fire, we will say our 5 jawans are shaheed and their 77 are halaq, meanwhile we will also all the Al Cowda into your side. Then these cows will mix with your cows and infect them too. Once that is accomplished we would ensure all the non infectable cows are driven out of your land and then we will go running to the UN and ask for a refferendum..
            KISI KOO BATANA NAHI PLEEAASSEEE YAAR

          • Architect says:

            Why use up all your infected cows? Most of the world’s AIDS victims come from your country, why not just catapult some of them over? I don’t see your DRDO coming up with any other ideas.

            A

          • Swapnil says:

            We are saving THAT for the time when the Amreecan AIDS stop coming to you guys (not too far away), that is when we will step in and provide you all the AIDS that you want my brother.

            Jokes apart

            I hope you and your family are having a great Ramzaan, my best wishes and blessing to all of you. I have a feeling that you must be great guy and really intelligent too who really really loves his counrty. I wish our 2 countries could be friends, how much fun would it be to be able to plan a weekend getaway at Islamabad and just drive through wagah while you guys could do the same on another weekend when we could take you guys around in Delhi. We have wasted 60 years away and no one achieved anything out of it apart from the damages to both, i wonder how long would this continue and if these is any hope at all.

  • Amused says:

    Sanity prevails in the Pakistani political arena. Unlike some posts here by Pakistani on this forum who want to play politics with the lives of millions of affected – translate – people who would prefer to see their own countrymen die of hunger rather than accept aid from India – anyways, very happy that the aid has been accepted and I hope that this is the beginning of better relationships between the two countries.

    “To begin with let me acknowledge the fact that Minister for External Affairs Mr. Krishna called me in Islamabad and he expressed sympathy and he condoled with me on the loss of life and offered assistance to Pakistan. According to Pakistan’s priorities, I want to take advantage of this connection to thank him and the government of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh for this very positive gesture. It is highly appreciated in Pakistan and we have recognised it. PM Manmohan Singh called up Prime Minister Gilani and they have also exchanged views on the evolving flood situation in Pakistan. He reiterated the offer made by Foreign Minister Krishna and I can share with you that the government of Pakistan has agreed to accept the Indian offer.”

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/pakistan-accepts-indias-aid-offer-for-flood-relief-work-45778?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NdtvNews-TopStories+%28NDTV+News+-+Top+Stories%29&cp

  • COMMUNIST!!!! says:

    USA HAS GOT NO RIGHT TO INSIST PAKISTAN TO ACCEPT THE AID FROM THE ENEMY OF HUMANITY THE INDIA -WITH PROPER MANAGEMENT AND HONEST ADMINISTRATION PAKISTAN SHALL COME OUT OF THIS ADVERSITY SOON BEFORE INDIA LAUNCHES ITS NEXT CONSPIRACY AGAINST PAKISTAN

  • Vish says:

    Why is there so much hatred here? Why is there so much anger? Pakistani or Indian, muslim or non-muslim, don’t we all have so many similarities? As an Indian, I can tell you that I was taught to respect all the religions. I know that there are a few people in India who for their own benifits, say bad things about muslims. They are selfish and do not want the country to progress. But, please don’t generalize India as anti-muslim. What is happening in Pakistan is a natural disaster and the common people are suffering. If we, Indians and Pakistanis stay friends, we can teach the western countries a lesson. All this hatred between India and Pakistan was started by the British and is now continued by the Americans. Our path of friendship may not be easy. There are selfish people. But, we can definitely give it a shot. And as an Indian, I can tell you that there are many people who respect Islam and really want to be friends with Pakistan. Please don’t let these western countries mislead you. How about becoming friends, instead of slapping each other?

    • Architect says:

      @ Vish,

      I can guarantee 110% that there are those within Pakistan who are even more keen to see a friendship emerge with their eastern neighbour. If you scroll through these messages though, you’ll see that unfortunately your voice is a distinct minority among your community.

      A

  • mogambo says:

    It is very saddening to see so much hatred on this board. We are ignoring the real tragedy of the flood, and instead focusing on a “hatred” that has been drilled in us over the last 60 years.

    I am Indian, I don’t think being Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Scientologist, etc has anything to do with it. I have met and have many friends from Pakistan as well. While I agree, there are many many people in India who are very closed minded and openly preach hatred for Pakistanis, they are definitely in the WRONG.

    Imagine the power the two nations could wield if they worked together. We would essentially run the entire sub continent and most of Asia, giving China a run for her money. I think in the Information Age, the archaic differences between our peoples need to be put aside. In the company I work in, run by a Hindu, the top tier employees and highest paid are Muslims. And that has nothing to do with Religion.. its about who is the best person for the job.

    It saddened me to learn from some Pakistani friends that in their school textbooks, they were taught from a young age that Indians were their enemies. If you repeat something like that to a young person often enough it becomes a truth to them. Same goes for India.

    I was in Colaba outside Cafe Leopold when 26/11 took place, and I managed to escape with my life. Did this increase my hatred for Muslims? Pakistanis? No. It made me angry at anyone who preaches violence and hatred.

    We have to learn to disregard these politics of hate. Soon, the old breed will die off, and the youth of both countries will lead their nations forward. I just hope that we can realize how much better our countries can be if we worked together. I have hope, even though many people may call me naive.

    • Ali Alamzeb - Keeping Pakistan First and Foremost says:

      @ Mogambo

      I completely and utterly agree with you. I have always believed the newer generation WILL step upto the plate and eventually do MORE for peace than it’s predecessors. I have Your words are not naive, they are the embodiment of optimism that exists on both sides of the border. Peace is a solution, war is not an option – i am a proponet of this school of thought. I wish you well. Take care.

      Ali Alamzeb

  • Vish says:

    @ Architect

    Hello Architect. I am happy to know that there are so many Pakistanis who want to be friends. Let me be the first to extend a hand of friendship to all of them and to you. I know many Indians will follow. It may not be easy, but then nothing is easy in this world. As for those Indians who are being foolish and adding all these negative comments here, please don’t pay attention to them. They are still immature. It is difficult to change someone in one day. But, they will eventually learn. Pakistanis and Indians must get together. And if we are friends then neither the British nor the Americans will even dare to step foot on our lands again. We can be two independent progressed nations and also very good friends at the same time. And let me tell you something. If you and I, and many more like us become friends, then these corrupt and selfish politicians who are ruining our countries, will never succeed.

    As of now, there are people in Pakistan who need everyones help. So that should be our priority.

  • Bindass Bol says:

    I really feel hilarious when i see you people using the word Hindustan. If you did little research you would know that the word came from River Indus-”Land of River Sindhu(Indus)..the very river which is the lifeline of Pakistan.
    ” Hindustan is derived from the Persian word Hindu, which is itself is derived from Sindhu, the original Sanskrit name of Indus River. Sindhu is a river in Sanskrit, in Persian it becomes Hindu. This together with a popular suffix -stān (Sanskrit `Sthānam’, Old Persian ’sthāna’, meaning place) gave birth to the word Hindustan, which was rendered as Hindustan. Literally, the word means land of the Hindus. In modern Persian, either Hind or Hindustan may be used to refer to India.”
    So technically you people are residing in our lands(like tenants) so would you keep that in mind while using the word Hindu or Hindustan or for that matter India(it is also derived from Indus)? Use Bharat, it sounds good :)

    And i seriously think that the wealth division during partition was partial towards India…..they gave us more brains then you ppl :) hahaha

    And for the fact we are not giving Any money to you people its too risky! The aid is kind so that actual needy pakistani would benefit.

    • Architect says:

      Perfect timing – Vish, straight after your reply to me, this Hindustani moron has proven that friendship between our nations is impossible. It’s sad that voices of moderation like yours will be lost because of people like him, but I hope you acknowledge that next time you ask why our countries are sworn enemies.

      Now, let’s deal with Bhindi Ass over here.

      ‘Hindustan’ is the name that your conquerors gave you when they arrived in the subcontinent, and saw your black @sses walking around aimlessly. You were given that name to DISTINGUISH you from your superiors, so instead of coming here with your woefully incorrect, mickey-mouse knowledge of history, go and do some homework and learn something about the Indus Valley Civilisation. That stands where modern Pakistan is today, and is far older than anything your ‘nation’ can offer – so you and your kind are in fact the actual tenants there. That’s gotta suck!

      Regarding Hindustan’s treachery during Partition, I’m not surprised you’re proud of it – it’s a hallmark of your nation. Funny how there weren’t enough ‘brains’ in Hindustan to win back Azad Kashmir though, were there…lol…

      …as for your aid, you can take it back along with our government – they are the only Pakistanis I know of who actually wish they were Hindustani. Take them, beat them, do a ‘Gujarat special’ and set fire to them – but don’t for a minute think that they represent the people. Flood victims in Nowshera are already reported to be picking out all the aid that is from Hindustan and returning it to Islamabad, so if I were you I wouldn’t gloat too quickly; your presence, your fake ‘goodwill’ and your products aren’t wanted and never will be.

      Oh, one last thing – ‘I feel so hilarious’ makes no sense. It’s not english. If you want to type in english, learn the language first.

      A

      • Swapnil says:

        Sir jee pleaj tich us ingleess, vee dunno nee…plij plij sir jee

      • mega_amused says:

        pakis are so luck they have white @asses, easier to spot a white one floating around aimlessly in the “Sindhu” river. Now please go lick your maulvi’s white @ss so it becomes whiter and he may give you another lesson in history.

        • Architect says:

          What’s the Bhangee obsession with @ss licking? Then again, they have a long, proud history of licking white @ss – I wonder if that’s where their cherished tradition of drinking urine came from as well…

          A

          • Mrtensor says:

            Oh Man ..he is awesome freaking duffer..guys u r wasting time..this guy has nthing to do ..but a frustated one as common paki..without job..safety..employment..spreading venom & hatred..& i gurantee he is abconding from his pakistan as like a normal paki in us, uk or dubai..trying to get there citizenship..faking his identity wherever required..
            You see ,,he is damm looser..dont waste time..he has lot of it…writing propoganda for or against any country will not change ground reality..a day when american aid is stopped ..all these nonsense will stop.

            They are living on mercy aid..a beggar nation..who enjoys calling a beggar..what a mockery & irony..Indeed Mr Jinnah we are thankful..you took away a bunch of retards..:)

  • Vish says:

    @ Bindass bol

    If you want to correct someone please make a genuine effort. If you want to be sarcastic or want to make fun of someone, then you are not welcome here.

    @ Swapnil and mega_amused

    This is not helping. Why are you instigating people like this? What good is going to come out of it? By having problems with your neighbors how can you be happy? Why don’t you realize that we are better off having good relations with our neighboring countries than the western nations? These western countries have never done anything good for the people in Asia. They always want instability in India and Pakistan, and for that matter any other country in Asia. And unfortunately people like you help them by adding such messages.

    Instead of spreading hatred like this, why don’t you use your mind and energy is doing something constructive so that we all can benefit. Others will follow!

  • unknown says:

    wow…I’m impressed with people from both countries. I find the the whole debate going on pretty interesting. How it went from floods to religion to history of the nations and then back to blaming both sides like a match going on in a badminton court.

    However, don’t you guys find it interesting to get both sides of view point?…:D

  • unknown says:

    What do you think we should do to stop blaming each other?

  • unknown says:

    Oh guys..please do not say this:

    People from India: Pakistanis should change!!!

    People from Pakistan: Indian should change!!!

    I meant change within ourselves. No badgering please..:D

  • Jasim says:

    no matter how many Indian dogs come here and bark… we will always chant PAKISTAN ZINDABAAD , ISLAM ZINDABAAD… INDIA MURDABAAD

  • Narimas says:

    Pakistan’s insanity is incredible!

    Even after 63 years they haven’t learnt anything, yes, only to be jealous and hate India
    to build their destructions only leaving behind any progress! Please, God help them to get
    their mind straight for a change!

    • Architect says:

      Funny how you worry so much about Pakistan and yet since the birth of your sewer country, you spineless curries have been trying to kill us off. Forget your fake concern, just swallow the harsh truth – we survived Independence, we defended ourselves against you in three wars, and inshallah we will continue to survive despite your wettest dreams.

      Deal with it!

      A

  • Dorota says:

    Hi,
    I`m not Pakistani neither Indian. After reading comments especially one I kept in my mind.Indian accusing Pakistan of not being civilised country like India would be so…

  • Dorota says:

    Mr Mohandas Ghandi…`be the change you want to see in the world`…
    Sir Dr Muhammad Iqbal…`Since love first made the breast an instrument Of fierce lamenting, by its flame my heart Was molten to a mirror, like a rose I pluck my breast apart, that I may hang This mirror in your sight`…
    Having such great leaders to learn from and being so pathetic.What a shame…

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