India Army Officer Killed in Kashmir
A senior Indian army officer has been killed in an ongoing gun battle with Lashkar-e-Tayba militants in Indian-administered Kashmir.
Major AK Thinge died after he and his men came “under heavy fire” in Poonch, an Indian army spokesman said.
Four other soldiers, including a colonel, were also killed in the attack which also left 7 more soldiers injured – some critically.
The latest attacks appear to be a response to Indian Army’s indiscriminate killings of Kashmiri youngsters in recent weeks.
Hundreds of thousands of Indian troops are based in Kashmir to suppress a two decade-old insurgency against Indian rule.
An army spokesman said it was not clear whether the militants had crossed the Line of Control which divides Indian and Pakistani-administered Kashmir, and is close to the Beri Rakh region where the gun battle is going on.
“The operation will continue. We have tightened the security cordon in the area.”
He said the troops had come under heavy fire from the militants as they were preparing to launch an operation to flush them out.
Ibtada-e-Ishq hey rota hey kya (Indian Army spokeman Sahab)
Agey agey dekhiye hota hey kya (InshAllah)
@ Lashkar-e-Tayba
Allah is with you…kill these napak paleeth kafir hindos, they are buzdil occopiying indian hindo kutty.
Insahallah you will defeat these indian kutty and free Kashmir from these harami’s dirty footsteps on its lands.
Pakistan is with you, we are one and Insahallah we will die for our honour and respect.
Pakistan and Kashmir Zindabad Paindabad
Ye din kabhi nahi aayega Haramjado!! Inshah Allah India hamesha Badshah raha hai or hamesha rahega. Pkistan ko 2 ghante me niptane ka hosla rakhte hai Hibdustan k Jawan.
Then every son of pakistan shall die in kashmir
They r not militants they r freedom fighters !!
I agree with you brother…
Pakistan’s proxy war against India to forcefully want to take J&k by all means and it is proved that they are the third gender(Hi****)….
Don’t worry guys ur dream will never be fulfilled and remember US has presence in half of Afghanistan and is in no mood of getting out,India’s million plus heroes(army guys)will take care of terrorists in J&k,Israel will soon gift Iran to US and in the east u are bordered by us and once surrounded…!!!
Shame on you that you are five time bigger than Pakistan,but still have to bank on Israel and US.
Your foolish talk of US taking on Iran,unites Muslims in India,which is more dangerous.
Fact is that you are now totally confused aur tum BAAL NOCHNAY LAGAY HO.
RAJ
Don’t you realize that there are enough people to hate in the world already without your working so hard to give us another?
Come back with another name.
Really ! whichever village you are from they should have kept you there or may be they just had one fool too many in Bollywood’s make believe village.
Raj,
You are an insult to Hindus. Amused is an intelligent person who can discuss issues and facts without resorting to wild wet dreams like you do!
phir tere haseeno ko zaroorat hai hina ki
baqi hai abhi rang mere khoon e jigar mein
O allah help the mujahideen of kashmir. ameen
Lashkar-e-Tayba is Kashmir, no one should be able to or be allowed to call freedom fighters with unfitting names.
Every Kashmiri is a fighter for Kashmir.
Lashkar-e-Tayba is Mujahadeen and we all must join to kick indians out of Kashmir.
Kashmiris reject Indo-Pak talks
Wednesday July 14, 2010
The past as present
India wants to usher new era of ties with Pakistan
Indo-Pak FMs to hold talks on July 15
New talks, old fears
Deceptive quest by India to restore peace
MUZAFFARABAD: Kashmiri political and militant leaders on Tuesday rejected talks between Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi and Indian External Affairs Minister SM Krishna scheduled in Islamabad for Thursday (tomorrow).
Addressing a conference organised by the 17-member United Jihad Council (UJC), Azad Kashmir Prime Minister Farooq Haider said that the talks could be meaningful only if Kashmiris were made part of it. He urged delegates to strengthen the movement and called his government a base camp for the independence movement.
On the occasion, Haider vowed to fight India for control of the disputed territory in a speech to thousands of people assembled by a coalition of banned militant groups. “Let me assure you that every home in Kashmir will become a bunker against India,” he told the gathering in the capital city. He said that Azad Kashmir would become a base for the independence movement.
UJC Chairman Syed Salahuddin, who is also supreme commander of militant Hizbul Mujahideen group, said the red carpet reception to Indian ministers in Islamabad has added to insult to injury for Kashmiris. “We also don’t accept any talks until Kashmiris are made part of it,” he added. “Jihad is the only solution to our problem,” he said.
“We must know that this (jihad) is only way to deal with Indian stubbornness,” he told the gathering. “We will continue our struggle until the last Indian soldier leaves Kashmir,” he said. “It is mandatory for every child in every street to wage war against India to bring it to its knees,” he said, and rejected upcoming talks between the foreign ministers of Pakistan and India.
The Jamaatud Dawa, a banned organisation which is widely seen as a front for the militant Lashkar-e-Tayyaba group, was also represented at the conference. “We are part of independence movement. This is not terrorism but a freedom fight,” said Hafiz Saifullah Mansoor, one of leaders of the Jamaatud Dawa.
End.
Legend has it there was a monkey. This monkey was no ordinary thing. It was more of a deranged kind, the kind that’s danger to itself and everyone around it. So, the wise men knew this and so was the monkey, since its birth, kept caged. They knew if they let it out, it would create havoc and mess too big, so they kept it caged and forever it remained so and the people remained in peace, all of em. One day, a conman from outside the town came and saw the monkey. The man knew the monkey was derangely shrewd. The man told the monkey he would let it out if it helped the man take over the good rich town. The monkey never knew what the world outside its world of cage looked like but it the man was sly. It told the monkey about this world and also told it that the monkey would be a king outside. The monkey couldn’t imagine this anyway but in its hate for the wise men agreed to help the bad man take over the town. So the monkey came out and together the bad man and the deranged monkey drove out the wise men and became self proclaimed kings. The man then left for other town and left the monkey at guard with a gun. Ever since, the town has been a mess. There are no wise men now because they left for another land, but in the town remain more deranged monkeys ruling. The monkey now has a screwed up town. That’s not it, since the monkey knows it has a gun, it keeps brandishing the gun to people from other towns. The monkey has problems with all towns and in its town itself. But the monkey doesn’t want to behave.
What does the monkey deserve now?
If you guessed it right, yes the monkey is Hindustan and Hindustan is what happened of this caged monkey who escaped from its cage and found a gun in its hands. Now the monkey has a gun and everyone else has a mess around them.
layla….well said..lol…simple solution for the monkey problem is to just shoot down this ugly monkey to get rid of the monkey problem, or else; stay suffering…..and what’s worrying bit now is, that the Lions of the town have stop eating meat and became grass eaters and therefore this dam ugly smelly monkey is still alive and been spared from the Lions hungry meat eating jaws.
I don’t get it…THE LIONS REFUSING TO EAT THIS MONKEY???
Ask retard Indian hindo amused, he will have one line answer as usual..:))
http://www.news.com.au/technology/pakistan-no1-in-the-world-in-pornographic-internet-searches/story-e6frfro0-1225891491204
ha ha ha ha ha ha …… Hypocrites.
they were probably trying to know whatever happened to their ‘biggest MAKER of porn’ neighbor, and so they ran some searches. By the way, you do know that Hindustan is the biggest maker of porn, or don’t you? And that’s not out of fame or anything but poverty, sheer poverty, such poverty. Hindustan now officially has more poor than Africa, whoa what an achievement for a superpower desperate to run a commonwealth. Hindustan is all about spoilt brahmans while the dalits and shoodras pay for their luxuries and fakeness. Hindustan is like a midget standing on a crippled chair trying to touch the sky, only that it doesn’t know it remains a midget.
Oh – we might be making p0rn. We never claim the moral high ground like you hypocrites.
Oh yeah – ban facebook, but donkey p0rn…. and camel p0rn…. yeah yeah. Continue surfing.
We might be a midget on a crippled chair, but atleast we don’t search for donkey p0rn all the while pretending to be “paak”.
Now go and surf for some donkey and camel action…. go on.
Don’t you have a terribly empty feeling..in your skull? Do you realise what you are saying you fool. I’d explain it to you, but I don’t have any crayons with me to draw it in pictures for you.
@Ahmed(so called)
I visited the link you provided,and sent my comment to them,which never appeared.I only gave few references:
HOSEA 4:12,6:10,9:1
EZEKIEL 23:1-49
LEVITICUS 18:8-18,20:11-12,17:21
GENESIS 35:22,38:15-18
I would advise you to see these references.Also see the Tantric Temples,in your India where donkey sex can be seen.
To Ahmed aka probably a hindoo who probably changed his identity !
there is no DOUBT in my mind that either you are drunk or retarded, what does this comment of yours has to do with the subject of this article, its just not making any sense, be a MAN and dont be jealous of pakistan being No 1 in pornographic searches HINDOOSTAN (great land of pee suckers) can do it too, just grab the hot rod you are not that far.
A Good Reply..
Kakwani…LOLOL WHAT A FITTING ANSWER…WELL DONE..:))
To Kakwani aka frog in a well…. India has about 150 million muslims.
Who cares what India searches for. You hypocrites pretend to be oh-so-”paak”… so go back to searching for donkey p0rn.
In India, we don’t make pretenses. But hey – enjoy your donkey p0rn.
Oh – and by the way, Pakistan isn’t the only country with muslims. Start looking outside your well … that is when you get a chance between surfing for donkey p0rn
This guy is amused. He’s faking it. I can so tell by his way of writing. For God sake Amused, do you guys still need to be proven a hypocrites ! This is shameful, using Pakistani name and faking. Read what I left for you above.
Who is amused?
Oh, and what is a “Pakistani” name? No.. wait… frog-in-the-well syndrome.
You guys actually believe that you are the only muslims on the planet…. ha ha ha ha
@Ahmed
Let us leave Pakis alone.We should not be bothered about them.We have our own problems.Cowcola is becoming very common spreading diseases.Many pieces of Rama’s Lingum have been stolen from many a Mandirs and are being sold in blackmarket.In Utranchal,one girl is “marrying” more than one person at a time,not knowing who is the father of her child.etc etc etc.
So,leave Pakis alone.
and lying now ! the thing is amused, sincerity and truthfulness starts with one’s own self. I don’t have to prove to you if you are lying and faking here or not and neither does it affect me or anyone else in the world, for that matter. You know yourself better, don’t you, ask yourself if you are lying here or not. Remember that self judgment and sincerity to one’s own self is the first step towards anything in life. If you cannot do that and you keep on using cheap tactics of lies and hypocrisy, with or without knowing it, you’ll not get anywhere. This is not the right way to do it. Even if you want to get low here, maintain your own identity. For the God sake, even enemies can show dignity.
Today you also learnt why Hindus cannot even think the way Muslims do which is the reason of your incapability. Please don’t repeat now that you are a non-Pakistani muslim, seriously you’re making a joke of yourself here and its just too obvious.
Lying now? That India has 150 million muslims? Or that you guys have a frog-in-the-well syndrome?
You wouldn’t have a clue as to how a muslim thinks. It is no wonder that you lot enjoy donkey action.
Ahmed you are lieing, Muslims in india are over 500 millions.
500 millions. Yes….. special Pakistani mathematics.
@ FAKE INDIAN HINDO HIDING BEHIND NAME Ahmed
YOU WOULD NOT KNOW BUT MATHS AND THE REST OF SCIENCES WERE CREATED BY MY ANSESTERS OF ISLAM THE MUSLIMS. BUT AS A HINDO YOU CARRY ON WITH YOUR FAKISM AND CARRY ON LIVING IN SHAMBLE STATE OF MIND THAT YOU ALL HINDOZ HAVE.:))
AHMED
I wish I had a lower I.Q so I could explain things to you in your own terms. But I won’t get into a battle of wits with you.
Next time you come on this forum don’t take even a drop of that cow urine. You get drunk on it too easily.
Not Crushed, Merely Ignored
Tariq Ali on the recent killings in Kashmir
A Kashmiri lawyer rang me last week in an agitated state. Had I heard labout the latest tragedies in Kashmir? I had not. He was stunned. So was I when he told me in detail what had been taking place there over the last three weeks. As far as I could see, none of the British daily papers or TV news bulletins had covered the story; after I met him I rescued two emails from Kashmir informing me of the horrors from my spam box. I was truly shamed. The next day I scoured the press again. Nothing. The only story in the Guardian from the paper’s Delhi correspondent – a full half-page – was headlined: ‘Model’s death brings new claims of dark side to India’s fashion industry’. Accompanying the story was a fetching photograph of the ill-fated woman. The deaths of (at that point) 11 young men between the ages of 15 and 27, shot by Indian security forces in Kashmir, weren’t mentioned. Later I discovered that a short report had appeared in the New York Times on 28 June and one the day after in the Guardian; there has been no substantial follow-up. When it comes to reporting crimes committed by states considered friendly to the West, atrocity fatigue rapidly kicks in. A few facts have begun to percolate through, but they are likely to be read in Europe and the US as just another example of Muslims causing trouble, with the Indian security forces merely doing their duty, if in a high-handed fashion. The failure to report on the deaths in Kashmir contrasts strangely with the overheated coverage of even the most minor unrest in Tibet, leave alone Tehran.
On 11 June this year, the Indian paramilitaries known as the Central Reserve Police Force fired tear-gas canisters at demonstrators, who were themselves protesting about earlier killings. One of the canisters hit 17-year-old Tufail Ahmad Mattoo on the head. It blew out his brains. After a photograph was published in the Kashmiri press, thousands defied the police and joined his funeral procession the next day, chanting angry slogans and pledging revenge. The photograph was ignored by the mainstream Indian press and the country’s celebrity-trivia-obsessed TV channels. As I write, the Kashmiri capital, Srinagar, and several other towns are under strict military curfew. Whenever it is lifted, however briefly, young men pour out onto the streets to protest and are greeted with tear gas. In most of the province there has been an effective general strike for more than three weeks. All shops are closed.
An ugly anti-Muslim chauvinism accompanies India’s violence. It has been open season on Muslims since 9/11, when the liberation struggle in Kashmir was conveniently subsumed under the war on terror and Israeli military officers were invited to visit Akhnur military base in the province and advise on counter-terrorism measures. The website India Defence noted in September 2008 that ‘Maj-Gen Avi Mizrahi paid an unscheduled visit to the disputed state of Kashmir last week to get an up-close look at the challenges the Indian military faces in its fight against Islamic insurgents. Mizrahi was in India for three days of meetings with the country’s military brass and to discuss a plan the IDF is drafting for Israeli commandos to train Indian counterterror forces.’ Their advice was straightforward: do as we do in Palestine and buy our weapons. In the six years since 2002 New Delhi had purchased $5 billion-worth of weaponry from the Israelis, to good effect.
Demonstrations against Indian security forces escalated in early June this year when it was revealed in the extra-alert Kashmiri press that three young men – Mohammed Shafi, Shahzad Ahmad Khan and Riyaz Ahmad – had been executed in April by Indian army officers. A colonel and a major were suspended from duty, a rare enough event, suggesting that their superiors knew exactly what had taken place. The colonel claimed that the young men were separatist militants who had been killed in an ‘encounter’ near the Line of Control (the border between Indian-controlled and Pakistani-controlled Kashmir). This account is regarded by local police as pure fiction.
An Amnesty International letter to the Indian prime minister in 2008 listed his country’s human rights abuses in Kashmir and called for an independent inquiry, claiming that ‘grave sites are believed to contain the remains of victims of unlawful killings, enforced disappearances, torture and other abuses which occurred in the context of armed conflict persisting in the state since 1989. The graves of at least 940 persons have reportedly been found in 18 villages in Uri district alone.’ A local NGO, the International People’s Tribunal on Human Rights and Justice in Indian-Administered Kashmir (IPTK), states that extrajudicial killings and torture are a commonplace in the valley and that Western institutions don’t even try to do anything about this for fear of damaging relations with New Delhi. The figures provided by the IPTK are startling. It claims that the Indian military occupation of Kashmir ‘between 1989-2009 has resulted in 70,000+ deaths’. The report disputes claims that these killings are aberrations. On the contrary, they are part of the occupation process, considered as ‘acts of service’, and leading to promotion and financial reward (bounty is paid after claims made by officers are verified). In this dirty and enduring conflict, more than half a million ‘military and paramilitary personnel [more than the number of US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan combined] continue to act with impunity to regulate movement, law and order across Kashmir. The Indian state itself, through its legal, political and military actions, has demonstrated the existence of a state of continuing conflict within Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir.’
Public opinion in India is mute. The parties of the left prefer to avoid the subject for fear that political rivals will question their patriotism. Kashmir is never spoken of, and has never been allowed to speak. With its Muslim majority it wasn’t permitted a referendum in 1947 to determine which of the two countries it wished to be part of. In 1984, when Indira Gandhi was the Indian prime minister, I asked her why she had not taken advantage of the birth of Bangladesh in 1971 (when Kashmiris had watched with horror how the Pakistan army treated their coreligionists) and allowed a referendum. She remained silent. I pointed out that even Farooq Abdullah, the chief minister of Kashmir, was convinced that India would win if a democratic election were held. Her face had clouded. ‘He’s completely untrustworthy.’ I had to agree, but her refusal to contemplate the Kashmiri self-determination promised by her father, Jawaharlal Nehru, was troubling. These days the very suggestion seems utopian.
The Abdullah dynasty continues to hold power in Kashmir and is keen to collaborate with New Delhi and enrich itself. I rang a journalist in Srinagar and asked him about the current chief minister, Omar Abdullah, a callow and callous youth whose only claim to office is dynastic. ‘Farooq Abdullah,’ he told me, ‘is our Asif Ali Zardari when it comes to corruption. Now he’s made his son chief minister so that he can concentrate on managing his various businesses.’ The opposition isn’t much better. Some Kashmiris, the journalist said, call Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, the effective leader of the opposition, and his cronies ‘double agents. That is, they are taking money from Pakistan and India.’ He is the 12th ‘mirwaiz’, the self-appointed spiritual leaders of the Muslims in the Kashmir Valley, and is adept at playing both sides. ‘Mirwaiz’s security outside his house is provided by the Indian state,’ a friend in Srinagar told me, ‘his wife is Kashmiri American, he lives very comfortably (without any source of income) and he is engaged in secret talks with India, news of which is constantly leaked. Furthermore, he also makes an annual pilgrimage to Pakistan to keep that channel open as well. He hangs out with “separatists” in Kashmir who are open to being used by both India and Pakistan, for a good price of course. The Indian authorities do not have to do much to crush Kashmiris while there are people like Mirwaiz. So, all in all, our leadership is working against us. India has always used this to its advantage.’
The Zardari government is silent on the issue of Kashmir and there has been little media reaction in Pakistan to the recent killings. For the ruling elite Kashmir is just a bargaining counter. ‘Give us Afghanistan and you can have Kashmir’ is the message currently emanating from the bunker in Islamabad. Zardari, it’s worth recalling, is the only Pakistani leader whose effigy has been burned in public in Indian Kashmir (soon after becoming president he had seriously downplayed Kashmiri aspirations). The Pakistani president and his ministers are more interested in business deals than in Kashmir. At the moment this suits Washington perfectly, since India is regarded as a major ally in the region and the US doesn’t want to have to justify its actions in Kashmir. Pakistan’s indifference also suggests that Indian allegations that recent events in Kashmir were triggered by Pakistan are baseless. Pakistan virtually dismantled the jihadi networks it had set up in Kashmir after the 1989 withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan not long after 9/11. Islamabad, high on the victory in Kabul, had stupidly assumed that they could repeat the trick in Kashmir. Those sent to infiltrate Indian Kashmir were brutal and mindless fanatics who harmed the Kashmiri case for self-determination, though some young people, tired of the patience exhibited by their elders, embraced the jihad, hoping it would bring them freedom. They were wrong.
As Indian politicians stood on the battlements of the Red Fort in Delhi to celebrate Independence Day in August 2008, Kashmiris began a mass campaign of civil disobedience. More than a hundred thousand people marched peacefully to the UN office in Srinagar. They burned effigies, chanted ‘Azadi, azadi’ (‘freedom’) and appealed to India to leave Kashmir. The movement was not crushed. It was merely ignored. Nothing changed. Now a new generation of Kashmiri youth is on the march. They fight, like the young Palestinians, with stones. Many have lost their fear of death and will not surrender. Ignored by politicians at home, abandoned by Pakistan, they are developing the independence of spirit that comes with isolation and it will not be easily quelled. It’s unlikely, however, that the prime minister of India and his colleagues will pay any attention to them. And just to show who’s master, the Indian army flag-marched through the streets of Srinagar on 7 July in an awesome show of strength.
Srinagar and Valley DOES not = Jammu& Kashmir.
The Hindu Jammu region has nothing to do with the above, Buddhist and Shia ladakh Ladakh has nothing to do with it,the majority of the Shias of Drass, Kargil,Leh have little to do with it. The Gujjars,the Bakarawals of Kashmir do not have any concern.In fact they are the biggest asset of the Indian forces.Helping in logistics as well as intel.
It is false to represent the elements in the Srinagar valley as representing th epeople and all areas of J&K.
Here we go again. Another Indian fools arrives on this forum high on cow urine. For your own sake stop drinking it.
@Striver,
Apart from references to bodily fluids and emissions,would if you have anything useful to say why don’t you say it!
How about countering what i have said?
RAJK
Stuidy does not need countering. But it needed to be pointed out to you in the hope that you moght become a little sensible and make a positive contribution to this forum.
But I guess that is too much to expect from you.
Keep it up. I begining to enjoy insulting you. Its fun.
@Rajk,
True to your Chanakya hypocracy.As Baghal Bachcha Ghulam of Britishers,you follow “divide and rule”.You divide one Kashmir into Hindu Kashmir,Shia Kashmir,Budhist Kashmir,Gujjar Kashmir.How about Brahmin Kashmir,whose residents ran away from Jammu.
Losers cannot do more.So carry on.Make further divisions in desperation.
@Anonymous,
Brahman Kashmir!
Perhaps you refer to the Kashmiri Pandits,all of whom were forced to leave Kashmir by the extremists elements.
OH, the invincible Indian army….!! The heroes….
Why do they call their dead soldeirs Shaheed? Its because Indra decreed it in 1971. They have no concept of a shaheed. Copy cut paste to Indian taste….its not just Bollywood, Indian politicians have been at it too…….
they don’t have slightest of idea what shaheed means in essence but they are using it because their soldiers are unmotivated and don’t know what they fight for. what bhartis should know is that the word shaheed goes hand in hand with the term jehad and while they say whatnot about jehad, in their hypocrisy they are ready to accept the term shaheed. such losers one a kind, can’t even find own terms and motivation. Even their war terms are taken from muslims. That is why we say, following and copying others and mostly muslims is the eternal destiny of Hindus. Followers they are and they will. No other choice for them.
@Striver – What’s wrong with the usage of the word “Shaheed”?
And why is that you people prefer to denigrate the “opposition”….. that’s a bit petty. Check out the new article here where the Indian Army Chief was asking the politicians to ensure that they do their job in Kashmir. That was termed as “failure” in the PKKH headlines. A few weeks back, your chief asked for pretty much the same thing and the headline was – well, not “failure”.
The point is simple. He went there to enforce the writ of the state and paid for it with his life. That’s an honour for a soldier and a loss for the nation.
It’s pretty simple.
Oh – and some time back, you called the LeT freedom fighters – have I got news for you mate…. your Govt is arresting your “freedom fighters”. I wonder what happened there
@layla – you wouldn’t have the slightest clue of reality. So continue with your delusions.
@ Amused, now aka Ahmed.
yada yada yada, that’s all you sound like to the world.
but Good to see you back in your own name, liar ! This is the face this hindustani keeps to feign “oh im so ethical, hell yeh”. and then, when he wants to exhibit his hypocritical hindu self, he goes out with names like “ahmed” and all. i always knew you’re faking it, just that it took you long to come clean on it. people, this guy was faking with that name Ahmed above and lying about it shamelessly. You losers can never change. You all are same, so insecure. two faced freaks !
and shaheed is muslim term, Hindustan has only picked it AS IT IS from muslims. i bet you don’t even know what it means literally. don’t go checking the web now. Gosh, such losers !
There is everyting wrong with the you guys using the word shaheed. You do not know what it really means. Your Indra borrowed it from Muslims without understanding the concept of a shaheed.
As for the officer dying for his country, of course one alwasy feel sadened by loss of any human life. There is no indication in my comment that I have been disrespectful to the Indian soldier. Islam taches us that.
Insulting the opposition is all part of the fun. But very often the “opposition” writes silly comments.
Kashnir is totally an issue that can not be caompared with anything that is happening is Pakistan NW. Nor is Kashmir a part of India. So the soldier was there trying to enforce the illegal occupation.
Just because Pakistan government is arresting LeT does not change the fact that they’re freedom fighters.
OH and LAYLA has produced some very interesting and though provoking articles. Try reading some of them in your spare time. Might learn something.
@ Amused=Ahmed
Seems you’ve lost the plot mate?
Go have some cowpiss cola and chill for a bit, before you come back for more floggings from us and layla the real tropper.
@PKKH,
Recently,I read an article on the blog “Pro Pakistan”,in which the writer has countered, in detail,the accusation as mentioned above by an Indian Hindu above(14 July, 9.50am)about Pakistanis interested in porno material.
Would you,kindly,reproduce here ASAP.Thanks.
@Layla,
What does Pakistan have to do with Muslims or Arabic words like shaheed on an exclusive basis!!!!
Pakistan’s population of Muslims is around 165-170 Million.
In India there are 160 Million Indian Muslims.
Almost as many as in Pakistan.
All great Muslim dynasties had the center of power and their capitals near Agra or Delhi or in South India in the Deccan.
The greatest examples of Muslim architecture are India NOT Pakistan.
The Islamic culture and the legacy of medieval India is part of Indian History and the assimilated culture beongs to all Indian Muslims and Indians alike.
So who is Pakistan to stake claim on anything ”Muslim”.
Kya Pakistan ne islam aur muslims ka theka le rakha hai!
Anything Islamic or Muslim does not automatically become Pakistani!!!!
how sad, you didn’t even gather my point. This isn’t about claims schmuck. This is about exclusively Muslims terms taken AS-IT-IS by Hindustan to term Hindu soldiers as Shaheeds. This is ridiculous. You know why you do that? Because the term glorifies someone as a martyr, killed for a cause. Do you know what that cause means? Dying in the cause of one God, Allah. Now ask yourself if your soldiers, the Hindu one in particular die for who’s cause. If that is IN HATE against muslims, you make a joke of yourself by using an islamic term which means Shaheed is for Allah’s cause. And don’t teach me history. I know what the region has gone through and the fact that you quote so much about Islam means that it has prevailed here for centuries and there’s nothing else about you here. It has taught you Hindus how to wash your faces even. It has taught you values for women which now you following west make fun of by making your kids dance naked on stages in front of your parents and on top of that you approve of it too by being proud. That is you, so don’t teach me about my own religion. Pakistan has all the claim on Islam and muslim terms. Because if you don’t know it, know it today, Pakistan = Islam and revival of Islamic caliphate, it is all about this. Pakistan is the bastion of islam, it is the stronghold of Islam. We live and die for glory of Islam. Does that ring a bell? Pakistan army by motto fights to be called shaheeds in cause of Allah. Now, Where the heck do you dweebs come in here to be called shaheeds? this is so ridiculous. Just because you like a term because you lack your own to give some glory to your pitiful soldiers does not mean you can use the term which again, is closely related to the term jehad. you hypocrites, this is shameful. You people are such shame to yourself. The whole Pakistan laughs when you call your soldiers shaheeds. For God sake, you don’t even know what it means really. But just high on copying from around the world whatever looks good. Just scram. Imagine a secular dud teaching Pakistanis about Islam.
Apart from emotional attachment of Pakistanis and Indians with Kashmir the need for a rational aprroach towards Kashmir Issue still remains.The paractical solution of Kashmir issue is that both the countries should withdraw troops from Kashmir and hand it to whom it belongs.In return Kashmir will not allow to any superpower to use its soil to be used as basis. Historically Kashmir has a long history to exist as an independent country.Such solution will hel both counries to reduce their military budgets which will be ultimately used in prevention of poverty. Its a fact that Kashmiris will not allow anyone to divide their motherland to be divided on sectarian, political,ethnic or racial basis.
Kashmir belongs to non-muslims Kashmiris same as it belongs to other non-muslim Kashmiris. So lets think in that way.Lets think to give healthy living to the poor people of India ,Pakistan and Kashmir.
@layla,
Shaheed does not have an exclusive religious connotation in India.
Watan ke liye shaheed ho jana is a common expression used very widely in India.
Mnay freedom fighters were called shaheed,like shaheed Bhagat singh.
He is a shaheed:
http://english.sina.com/world/p/2009/0324/228548.html
What you think of all Indians as extreme anti-Muslim is not true.
I cannot even say anything derogatory specific to Muslims because that would be cursing my own friends and countrymen.
And care to see the conditions prevailing in Pakistan and how far your caliphate dreams are are plain to see.
In any case islam is not there BECAUSE of Pakistan and Pakistan neither has the capability nor authority to lay claims on a historical civilization and religions as islam prevailing around the world.
RAJK
You keep showing up your ignorance you fool. Go get an education on Islam.
Here your first lesson. Your so called Hindi is really Urdu. Ive kept it simple. Next lesson will be when you have been able to fully understand the line ive just given you.
@Striver,
And off course for you urdu=islam!!
Where do such delusions come from!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hindustani
The language has been around ages,long before anything called Pakistan existed.
Urdu is an OFFICIAL and recognize language in India.
So whats your point?
@ Rajk
You need to learn your maths mate? It seems you are either deliberatly reducing our population rates or you don’t know how to count?
Let me tell you indian retard miglined hindoz some facts.
Muslims in Pakistan are 99.9% bringing it over 180 millions.
Muslims in india are over 500 millions. This figuer was found in consenses taken way back in early 70’s and 80’s.
So correct yourself. There are lot of Muslims in india and why not india was created by their muslim ansesters not by some loser hindos who only were far too busy worshiping cows and drinking their urine.