Strengthen Nuclear Capability to Avert Indian Designs
Islamabad, June 21 (IANS) Pakistan must outstrip India in the nuclear race to counter its neighbour, which is “fomenting instability” and was aiming to dismember this country as part of an American-Indian-Israeli “satanic alliance”, an editorial in a leading Urdu daily said Monday.
“To create tension in the region, foment instability in Pakistan and to break it up into two to four pieces, a satanic triangular alliance of America, India and Israel and their intelligence agencies has come about,” the editorial in Nawa-i-Waqt said.
It claimed that Indian spy agency Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) has “already created a network in Afghanistan using Indian consulates where terrorists were being trained and being infiltrated into Pakistan in the guise of the Taliban”.
The editorial, which began by accusing former Afghan intelligence chief Amrullah Salah of working at the dictates of RAW to cause instability in Pakistan, castigated “fashions” such as “Aman ki Asha” peace initiative and sought to warn Pakistani intellectuals and politicians of the “real face” of India, with which no peace was possible.
It said there was “sufficient evidence of and witnesses to” the Indian involvement in various terrorist attacks in Pakistan, including the last month’s attacks on two Ahmadi places of worship in Lahore.
“Talking of peace with India is akin to feeding milk to a snake and instead of feeding the snake, it should be crushed. For this, we have nuclear power (capability). Until we defeat India in the nuclear race, it will keep on conspiring against us,” the editorial maintained.
As for Salah, who resigned June 6 after the Taliban attack on a peace jirga in Kabul, the editorial said he had spent his whole life working against Pakistan’s interests and was in constant touch with RAW, which had even provided him staff for his “nefarious designs”.
He was also accused of being behind reports in The Sunday Times and by the London School of Economics that charged Pakistan’s spy agency Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) of still covertly supporting the Taliban in Afghanistan.
Also, Salah had demanded a free hand for his “work” from Afghan President Hamid Karzai and on being refused, threatened to plunge the entire region into bloodshed, the editorial said.
It said after his resignation, Salah – an ethnic Tajik from the Panjshir Valley who had worked with charismatic guerrilla leader Ahmad Shah Masood – was working full time for RAW.
Apart from involvement in various terrorist outrages in Lahore, Karachi, Islamabad, Rawalpindi and Multan, the editorial alleged that RAW operatives had tied up with violent criminals in Balochistan in an attempt to cripple Pakistan’s economy.
It said Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani had given proof of this to his Indian counterpart Manmohan Singh during their meeting on the margins of the Non-Aligned Movement summit at Sharm-el Sheikh and demanded that these activities be stopped forthwith.
Manmohan Singh had promised to assess the evidence but the opposition, including from his own party, he faced when he returned to India, prevented any action and these activities continued unabated, the editorial said.
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The link below shows another exmaple of how Pakistan has so often helped India without expecting reciprocity. Yet the Hindu Indians think we are their enemies. With this frame of mind they only have themsleves to blame for our army being Indo-centric; for pointing our weapons in their direction. They are their own worst enemy.
As I have always said on this and on Indian forums, the Indians need to get rid of some hatemongering elements within the Indian governement, beurocracy, foreign servce and RAW. These elements are a danger to peace in our region.
The public need to stop being a victim of their own media’s propoganda which in turn only churns out what the hatemongering elements tell them to.
Kalmadi thanks Pakistan for support during CWG bid: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/events-tournaments/commonwealth-games/Kalmadi-thanks-Pakistan-for-support-during-CWG-bid/articleshow/6078765.cms
Wake up you fools. You have had a two generations of hating us. Haven’t you had enough?
We’re awake… you guys need to wake up too. Just look around – the extremism in your society isn’t imported (well… some of it might be, but most isn’t). The LeT, JeM, SSP are organisations created and funded by your establishment – and they are not helping in the cause of peace.
Just like you blame the Indian media, I think you need to look at your media too… they prefer to label anyone with differing views as ‘foreign agent’.
And if there was hatred on the Indian side, there wouldn’t be as much support for the Aman ki Aasha initiative….. and the really funny thing – some sections of your non-mainstream media have classed that as an RAW activity (and some people actually believe that too)
But most importantly – to us here, it just appears that you guys prefer to believe in conspiracy theories a lot of the time. Thrice I’ve posted details about the so called ‘water theft by India’, but no one has actually bothered to check up on facts. I remember the time when some channels in Pakistan were screaming that Kasab was not a Pakistani. That whole ‘blue tulsi’ nonsense which a lot of people seem to believe is again a prime example.
Basically – not trying to heap scorn on you guys – but while you guys preach to us to open our eyes – I think you guys need to give that a try yourselves on some pretty critical issues concerning your country. And yes, I agree, we need to start seeking some truths as well.
Dawn News recently produced a wonderful series (on youtube). Watch it. Might change a few of your misconceptions.
what series is that ? give links
AMUSED
Of all the Indians that I have had a ‘dialogue’ with on other forums, I find your comments balanced and intellligent. You spew little hatred for Pakistan and Pakistanis in comparison to your countrymen and women on other forums. This is a compliment to you, in disguise.
Out of all the paragraphs in my post above you seemed to have focused on the last ignoring all the rest (should I take it that you agree with everythingelse I have said?) and yet you complain we failed to check the facts you posted thrice.
When was the last time you checked and accepted the facts posted here. Every report that has been presneted here you think is a ‘nonsense’ or full of ‘holes’, yet you fail to support your assertions with credible evidence.
You seem to have built a picture of India that may seem real to you in your little playpen (joke) but those at the recieiving end of your beloved ”democratic” and benignant state organ are in possession of truths which you guys find hard to digest.
We know our shortcomings and we love to expound them in the public domain. Indians it seems think that India is perfect Indians a symbol of perfection.
SSP: Sipah Sahaba Pakistan is a sectarian party. What evidence have you of its nose-poking in the Pakistan’s external affairs.
LeT: Laskar-e-Taiba’s focus is on Kashmir. Now Kashmir is a problem that India created not Pakistan. All LeT wants is independence of Kashmir, which is in line with UN resolutions. No big deal.
JeM: Jaish-e-Mohammed’s focus is also on Kashmir.
Leaving out SSP which is a sectarian organisation, the other two are freedom fighters. Give Kashmiris their freedom. Why don’t you?
As for AMAN KI AYSHA, I have checked out some of the comments left on Times of India forum. And then i checked the comments on the NEWS forum. I tell you I was SHCOKED to say the least. That so much hateful venom against Paksitan exists in the Indian psyche, I never thought.
Yet I have met Indians who seem perfectly at home with Pakistanis. But they seem to be a small minority.
its interesting. you are assuming that indians hate u bcos pakistanis hate indians.
most indians dont give a crap about ur country. read this and open ur eyes
http://www.countercurrents.org/ipk-hoodhoy190205.htm
NIK
Trying to be intelligent NIK? Give it up. I doesn’t suite you. You make a fool of yourslef. The languguage you use is a reflection of your pathetic state of mind. Your languguage initself is proof of your hateful mindset towards Pakistanis.
Hallucinations ! Here we go again, you are seeing things that are not there. Get off those drugs:
”its interesting. you are assuming that indians hate u bcos pakistanis hate indians”
Had you bothered to read my last para? But I know you didn’t. I am asking a fool to act intelligent. It just doesn’t work.
lol
looks like u read my link. the truth hurts doesnt it? by now u must know that most indians have better things to do than care about a top ten failed state
Will reply in detail later re Kashmir –
The only report I’ve made that comment against was the “blue tulsi” stuff – and funny enough, I’d actually posted a long writeup as a reply to your comment, but the tread seems to have vanished.
The hateful venom spouted online by Indians is no different to one spouted here by most of your compatriots. The people on either side of the border aren’t that different. There is idiocy in equal amounts. You show me the posts on this forum which talk fondly about India and I’ll show you posts on Indian forums which talk fondly about Pakistan..
Now, not certain what the ‘news forum’ is, but I’ll take your word for it.
JeM/LeT – you may prefer to call them freedom fighter, then you must allow me to call the BLA as freedom fighters as well.
The Indian state is full on contradictions – there is absolutely no doubt in my mind about that. There are things which have been done by the Govt, which are shameful. I could list heaps – but the difference is simple – the vote works pretty well in India. BJP – riding on strength, was kicked out in 2004, just like the congress was kicked out before that.
The voter remembers and guess what, the Congress hasn’t won many seats in Punjab since 1984. My view of my country is just about as rose-tinted as yours… no more… no less. The only difference is that you guys seem to have a threat perception from India that almost borders on the un-believable.
All allegations made against India also seem to emanate from non-Govt sources. Which means that no evidence is ever produced (or fabricated). A few months ago, a couple of bags of chemicals from Vaigai Industries, India was paraded as fact of Indian involvement. 3 weeks after that news, there was a small news article in Dawn that spoke of Vaigai shipping these chemicals to many companies in Pakistan and 1 of them had their entire stock re-routed. Coincidence or proof – you decide.
I don’t think there are many reports published here which present evidence that I disagree with. It is the reports with innuendo and baseless allegations that serves no purpose. India is no example of perfection – and just look at all the online forums where issues are discussed – and you’ll find us criticising heaps. We’ve got tools like the RTI (right to information) which is helping to curb a lot of bad things. I can go in heaps of detail into those issues – but they are not of interest here.
Oh – and yes – the bits of your initial post that I did not reply to were because I agree with those. Sure, we’ve got hawks in the Govt – no different to what you have in yours. Sure, we’ve got renegades in the intelligence – no different to what you have in yours. They are as much of a threat to peace in the region as the people on your side of the border. The only advantage that India has in that respect, is that the various establishments are actually controlled by the Govt., whereas in your nation, it appears that the defence establishments actually control your democratically elected Govt.
AMUSED
I am sorry I’ve missed your long comment. It would have been an interesting read.
But sometimes there are not enough hours in the day to balance work and play. Like today. So unfortunately I have to bow out of the discussion and give you a reply some other time.
Perhaps you would be kind enough to copy and paste (Bollywood does it why not you (joke)) it when the next India-realted news item appears. I look forawrd to reading it.
No worries dude…. some other time
this guy hates everything about india: from sardars to bollywood.
serious issues dude
Firstly Pak must chase away the US forces from AfPak if they have guts….
…and also they have to retaliate the US drone attacks which is killing their Children,women and Men everyday and no one talks about it…
…believe me Pak is surrounded by India in East and US has presence in half of Afghanistan and Israel will gift Iran to US soon and once surrounded….!!!!!!
@ Raj
in urdu:
jab barra shaytan iss khittey se dffa ho jaaye ga, chotey shaytan ko ham sambhaal hee leyn ge…. woh hamare liye koi pareshani ka ba’is nei bn skta because it dont have the clout to worry us. chunancheh, chotey shaytan ko hamesha doosron ka sahaara ley kr ham pe vaar krney ki aadat hai. aaj jo bhi kr rahey ho krtey raho, POORI himmat lgaa lo lekin na tum hamare azm ko tor pao gey awr na hee hamare mulk ko.. hameyn thortey thortey tum khud tbaah awr reyza reyza ho jao ge, kasam hai parvardigar ki. mere ‘ba-izzat’ hmsaaye mulk ke ek ‘ba-izzat’ shehri: tum apna kaam karo awr krte raho, hameyn jo krna hai ham behter jaante hain awr ham krte raheyn ge.
i’ve made my point. jinheyn samajh aani thi, yaqeenan wo samajh chukey honge and that’s all that matters.
Ali Alamzeb
I find it a bit difficult that Americans can launch drone-strikes inside Pakistan (from PAF Air Bases) without the active support of either the Pakistani Govt., or the Armed Forces…. dunno why, but I just find that a bit difficult to digest.
While the drone strikes are absolutely terrible in terms of human costs, they have exacted a huge toll on the TTP leadership. And I think the Pakistani Govt is using plausible deniability on this issue.
That’s what I think anyway
@ Amused
Hi…. nothing to hide here, the truth is bitter.
the drone strikes are launched with the tacit approval and connivance of the political and military leadership. period. it’s sad but it’s true and there are many reasons for this, one being the monetary benefit gained from the US by targetting terrorist elements on Pakistani soil (FATA) and renting two airbases. it’s a mutual understanding. the flip side which really hurts is the collateral damage caused by the strikes and, as in many conflicts and hostilities, the innocent lives that are also lost.
@ Raj
in urdu:
jab barra shaytan iss khittey se dffa ho jaaye ga, chotey shaytan ko ham sambhaal hee leyn ge…. woh hamare liye koi pareshani ka ba’is nei bn skta because it dont have the clout to worry us. chunancheh, chotey shaytan ko hamesha doosron ka sahaara ley kr ham pe vaar krney ki aadat hai. aaj jo bhi kr rahey ho krtey raho, POORI himmat lgaa lo lekin na tum hamare azm ko tor pao gey awr na hee hamare mulk ko.. hameyn thortey thortey tum khud tbaah awr reyza reyza ho jao ge, kasam hai parvardigar ki. mere ‘ba-izzat’ hmsaaye mulk ke ek ‘ba-izzat’ shehri: tum apna kaam karo awr krte raho, hameyn jo krna hai ham behter jaante hain awr ham krte raheyn ge.
i’ve made my point. jinheyn samajh aani thi, yaqeenan wo samajh chukey honge and that’s all that matters.
Ali Alamzeb
Keep posting stuff like this i really like it